| sundin13 said: -In regards to the first part of your post, I agree that not all cops are racist and not all cops abuse their power, however, something I've said a few times in this thread, is that looking at this as an issue with individuals either being good or bad is the wrong way to go about it (imo). The issue isn't that some people choose to abuse the power that they have been given, it is that the system is built in such a way that these abuses will be both inevitable and common. That is why I try to not go down this route of "one bad apple" or "not all cops". It just isn't productive in my opinion, no matter what side of the issue that it is coming from. Now, I'll let tsogud speak for themselves, but I think their post is pretty consistent with the opinion I've expressed here. They are communicating an indictment of the system, while asking the individuals involved with that system to demand change. I think that is entirely fair, personally. |
Which is why I promote the path of systemic legislative change through peaceful means, such change needs to be demanded by all... And now that the police have lost their social license, now is the perfect time to do so, just need someone competent at the very top to get the ball rolling.
| sundin13 said: Further, there is a big difference between comparing the police system to a racial group. One is a system, while the other is not. I think as such, it is neither hypocritical nor problematic to condemn the police system and not condemn a racial group due to the actions of individuals within those groups. They are fundamentally different and as such, this comparison holds no water (imo). |
"Police" is an identifier to a group of individuals, it's not just a system, it's an identifier of those in the service.
African American is also an identifier to a group of individuals, yes there are differences between the two, but the logic that is used for one can be used for the other for the most part.
Either way, I am not in the business of labeling all demographics with the same colour of brush, neither should anyone else.
| sundin13 said: -In regards to the second part, I would just like to say, that while I personally disagree with the violent and destructive behaviors of some individuals involved in these protests, I do not believe that it is my right as a white man to step in and tell those who have been the victims of systematic injustice, how they are allowed to protest. |
I disagree. Everyone should condemn violence. - Maybe my view is skewed on this, but I have a degree of empathy towards individuals that are suffering, probably why I do what I do, put my life at risk to save others.
Violence affects more than just the direct participants.
And we should be scrutinizing how people protest, there is a right and wrong way to go about things... Protesting that results in life and property lost is not appropriate, shit even legal protesting.
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