sundin13 said:
You seemed to have completely ignored my first point, so I see no reason to repeat myself on that. As for my second point, I think your twisting of what I said is an incredibly shitty thing to do. I never said that anyone was being passive about these laws, so for you to even make these accusations I think is pretty illuminating about your mindset on the issues. There are many people who are being proactive about these laws. I posted one example of that in my comment. However, my point was that the fact that people like you are demanding that the victims write the laws is in itself a perversion of justice. It is not the way that these things should work. It is due to a complete failure of the system, and we should demand that the system improves and does its fucking job. The many people and organization who are putting forward policy proposals and demands are going above and beyond what should be required of them, so for you to accuse them of not caring, man that fucking pisses me off... As for the last point, something I often like to say in regards to mass shootings is that we shouldn't look to implement reactive policies to prevent one specific instance. We should be proactive instead of reacting. We should look to do the most good, instead of trying to prevent something that has already happened. That said, I think numerous things that were listed on that site could have made a difference, most notably changing how officers respond to minor offenses and improving training. The thing is, a lot of this comes down to changing mindsets. It isn't about saying or doing one specific thing, it is about fundamentally changing the relationship between police and the community, and that is something which cannot be done just by making one or two small changes. It requires foundational change. |
Trying to enact preventative measures IS a proactive approach.
TK-Karma said:
I am seriously struggling to accept that you could legitimately be this naive. Your behaviour is in-line with what the protests are about in the first place ... many people do not believe that the system works, from their subjective viewpoint. The outcomes they experience in their day-to-day lives are living proof to them that it doesn't work. They are trying to communicate this to naive people like you in the mainstream who just gaslight them and tell them to go back to voting and it'll all be ok. Please at least make an attempt to learn inference as a skill for critical thinking. |
"many people do not believe that the system works, from their subjective viewpoint"
>Indeed, very subjective. And that's a problem.
