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JEMC said:
vivster said:

I don't overclock, I let the manufacturer do that for me. And when they can't even get a refresh up to 5GHz, then that means it must be garbage at overclocking. If Intel manages to go to 5.3Ghz on 14nm, then it's just pathetic with what AMD struggles at 7nm.

Leaving aside what qualifies as an overclock and what doesn't, you seem to care more about an arbitrary number than the whole package. And while you may find AMD's result pathetic, the vast majority of us believe that what they've achieved is rather impressive.

I play high fps games, all I need is fast cores. When I look at the gaming benchmarks all I see is AMD lagging behind behind because of low clocks and that's frustrating. Going wide is pretty much pointless for my use case. Feels like AMD is only catching up because Intel stands still and rather than good engineering they're profiting off slow natural evolution.



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