The Xenoblade Chronicles Series Thread: Definitive Edition (All Spoilers in Tags)

[Shiken]

Vodacixi said:

Shiken said:

So what the game's director says is absolute huh?  Then answer me this...

Do you accept with absolute certainty that the Zelda Timeline is true canon, and in no way were they ever meant to be stand alone games?

The director always said a timeline exists.  Hell he even had it put into a book.  But...well you know how people are.

So where do you stand when it comes to that?  We already know you have a double standard with SoC, so what about this?

What the director says is not absolute. It has to make sense. Obviously if he says 2+2 is 73 he is talking nonesense.

The Zelda timeline at times seems right, and at others seems forced. I would say they never really intended to connect all games, but they thought it would be cool to do it and they rolled with it. But to be fair, that is a very different situation than the one with Xenoblade. Nintendo can benefit from creating a timeline in different ways and Aonuma trying to keep the lie going makes sense. 

But why would Takahashi lie on this? What does he gain by saying this game is a remaster instead of a remake? I think he's just calling the game what he thinks he is, no more no less. And since he is the maximum authority on the matter, I see no reason to not believe him. Especially since everything else from footage to journalists to information provided by Nintendo points to the game being a remaster. 

As for SotC... I already said that to me what a business man says about the insides of gaming means nothing. Yoshida saying SotC is a remake means nothing to me.

A very respectable response.

My response to that is basically what you just said.  What a director says is not absolute and must make sense.  To me and many others, when the majority of a game is remade with new assets and effects, it does not make sense to call it a remaster.  The majority has been remade, and therefore it should be called a remake.  Much like the lable does not matter to you, it does not matter to me for the same reason.

I understand your's and Hynads reason for calling it a remaster.  I just do not agree with it, or your definition of one.  This whole remake culture has fueled a lot of talk over what a remake truly is, because there is no concrete definition available.  It is all up for interpretation.

To me, the game is a remake based on the definition and reasons I have stated.  Nothing you say can change that fact.  If you interpret it differently, do not come at me and call my definition wrong.  Both sides have been in the wrong here at one point or another.

Last edited by Shiken - on 25 May 2020