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okr on 28 June 2008
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bardicverse said:
okr said:
@bradicverse:
What should I refute? Did we have a discussion before you posted your long expertise?

Black music to me is Soul, Blues, R&B, Jazz, Funk, Hip-Hop (NA) Afro-Brazilian, Reggae (SA, Jamaica) and many more.

I know that "whites, blacks, creoles all joined", but I will aways and ever label all these musical art forms overall as black music because all of them wouldn't have been developed without black people. That's all.

Sly Stone loved white drummers, but Sylvester wrote the songs and gave them his soul.

No, we hadn't. but it was pre-emptive to avoid a 20 post convo between us ;)

As by how you label music then, Rock would also be regarded highly as dependent on the black musical community too. Jimi Hendrix, Chuck Berry, Chubby Checkers to name a few. Without these, even bands like the Beatles might not have come about. Hell, Living Colour, need I say more? You can even take the bread and butter of modern european music - club/techno, and give thanks to the legendary black american musician Herbie Hancock for pushing electronic music in the early 80s in new directions. For reference, I point you to Rock It by Herbie Hancock. Music is one of those things that you can't seperate race. When you have bands like Korn, which are mostly black, and then rappers like Eminem, the racial lines get blurred. Of course, that is a good thing, and we could only hope there would be more racial blurring in the world.

Yes, I know that Rock'n'Roll wouldn't be the same without the influence of black musicians. You don't have to preach to the converted, preach to people like the guys in this thread who claim that some British bands founded some years ago are the best eva. (I gave up convincing people of my music taste or opinion on music in general long ago. Unfortunately others still want to convince me of THEIR taste. "You have to buy the new Feist album". No, I don't. I buy Aimee Mann's new album instead). 

BTW: Don't forget Little Richard. The crazy guy won't like the fact that you named Jimi, Chuck and Chubby instead.

And Chuck Berry is Keith Richard's hero: http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/chuckberry/articles/story/5928768/keith_richards

In my opinion black music in general was the most influential art form of 20th century (not a good sentence, I know, but the best way I can express it).

Thanks for reminding me of Living Colour. I'm listening to their (imo) best album "Time's Up" right now.