Xbox Series X's cross-gen approach is robbing players of the next-gen thrill

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Mr Puggsly said:

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Many aspects of AMD jaguar absolutely beat Cell. Integer operations is a massive advantage in Jaguars favor.

The proof is in the games, games that run on AMD Jaguar tend to have superior physics, A.I and higher player/A.I counts than any Playstation 3 game.

There have been articles claiming the Cell is far more capable than the Jaguar CPUs. Maybe its technically true, but it only seems theoretical to me and we can't ignore developers struggled with it. Therefore even if it was more capable, Jaguar CPU was still a better option than the Cell on PS4.

In regard to what we actually saw in games with the Cell on PS3, its worth considering it was limited to the significantly lower RAM and GPU capabilities of PS3. So that would impact AI and player counts as well. Either way, I'm not convinced the Cell was a good CPU for a gaming console.

The Cell can beat Jaguar in a few key scenarios... Such as Iterative Refinement in Floating Point, Games use all different kinds of maths/equations/problems and that is constantly changing, the Cell simply is only good at a handling a select few.

Where-as Jaguar is a far more balanced architecture as it needs to be proficient at all types of problems as the PC isn't some single-use environment, which means that higher precision floating point, integers and so forth tend to be higher performing on Jaguar.

Look at this way...

Let's say you have Cell and Jaguar cruising down the highway, the Cell might cruise happily at 100kilometers/miles per hour, but "occasionally" speed up to 200/km/miles depending if there are favorable road (I.E. Math) conditions.

Where-as Jaguar is able to do 150km/miles per hour constantly regardless of road conditions... And as such is able to beat Cell in the race to the end, Cell might have the higher potential top speed, but it's impossible to maintain it.

It's another case where "Flops" does not tell the entire story, only the theoretical maximum, not the sustainable amount.

The Cell was definitely a good gaming CPU for the time, but it was obscenely difficult to program for, at the time developers were only getting used to building games for 2-threads, let alone the 6-7 of the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3, but when they did get used to building games in such a parallel fashion, games started to come into their own.
The other issue is that they are in-order designs, where-as Jaguar is very capable at handling "dirty" problems due to it's out-of-order design, branch prediction and so forth... And thus maintaining a degree of efficiency on the Cell and Xenon needed to have compilers optimized and "hand guided" in order to reduce CPU pipeline stalls on Cell and Xenon.

I could go more in-depth here, but that is a rough idea of why Jaguar is better than Cell... And again, the games do actually prove it, Frostbite multiplayer games on Xbox One/Playstation 4 had big increases in player counts, more impressive physics and so forth and that was a trend that occurred all generation long and allowed for a new Genre aka "Battle Royale" to become possible.

Zen takes things a big step forward though in a generational CPU increase, we probably haven't seen such a jump in a very long time on the CPU front, the CPU might only be mid-range, by Zen is stupidly capable and that has me moist for what it will bring to the table.