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Cerebralbore101 on 13 May 2020
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smroadkill15 said:
Runa216 said:
I was going to write up another reply to Rol and Sales person, but I realized...their revisionist history is at odds with reality and no amount of arguing is going to make them concede the point. I don't expect them to agree with me, but If we're not even adhering to the same flow of time and see history from a completely different perspective than what is real, then there's no way this can be a fruitful discussion.

Rol, your assertion that 'exclusives' are the least important of the factors you listed is just so wrong I don't even know where to start.

Sales, your revisionist history where you're passing the buck and saying 'nuh uh, what you say Xbox does...well Sony does it' is also not really in line with what really happened or how history went. I also need to point out that my example of Rare was simply the progenitor to the problem Microsoft has. they acquire studios and do nothing with them. They did it with Rare and have not changed their tone ever since then. when was the last time a Microsoft helmed studio made something as epic and groundbreaking as Banjo Kazooie? When was the last time we had high quality middle-tier exclusives on Xbox? we just haven't in ages. That's my point.

Seriously, get with reality. I get that you have your preferences - we all do - but you can't just disregard everything about history in order to fuel your faulty narrative. Regardless of personal preferences, the sales history of these two companies speak a wholly different story than the one you're trying to tell.

You're assertion MS won't do anything with the newly acquired studios is simply wrong. These new studios wouldn't be snagging up talented devs from all over if they weren't going to do anything. Playgrounds new RPG is rumored to be shown this year, along with The Initiatives new game, Everwild from Rare, Hellblade 2 from Ninja Theory. Obsidian is hard at work on a new AAA RPG, Outer Worlds 2, and Grounded. Inxile is working on a large scale RPG, along with everything else. Don't worry though, come July when MS has their showcase of 1st party games, you'll see a bunch of stuff they have been working on. Using Banjo, a game not even originally an xbox game, as their apex of games, it just strange. Halo and Gears are just as impactful. Sea of Thieves has turned into one of Rares most successful games. 

Basing everything off of mistakes Xbox made in the past, doesn't change what MS has accomplished the last couple years to really make some headway into next generation. 

All those bolded games being hyped up remind me so much of the Vita's 1st party lineup being hyped up. Games I had never heard of, games from studios without much of a good track record. Games that would also be available on another platform (PS4 in Vita's case, PC in XB2's case). I remember arguing with Sony hardcores over whether or not Vita would have a lineup to compete with 3DS. They continually grasped at straws, pinning their hopes on the most unknown, unproven studios. Here we see the same thing. History repeats itself I guess.