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Ethio89 said:
I reverted to becoming a believer a couple of weeks ago because science couldn't explain something important - consciousness.

You can piece together carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, and hydrogen all you want, and through the laws of physics you can create beings that walk, talk, and respond to stimuli, but awareness of yourself and the environment did not make sense to me when considering it occurred as a natural evolutionary process.

Our brain consists of neurons which follow the rules of physics. There is no purpose to a consciousness when you can simply behave the same towards stimuli without one (like a robot would depending on how it is programmed).

We do not understand how consciousness arises.

That doesn't mean "god did it" is a viable answer.  Do you have an explanation for how god can create consciousness?  Or where his consciousness would come from?

dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Runa216 said:

Yet. Just because you don't understand something, it doesn't make it a good reason to follow fairy tales for empty but comforting ideas. 

Jesus is scientifically proved to have existed, Saints and Apostles are scientifically proved to have lived, suffered and died for believing in something, Old Testament prophesying Jesus is scientifically proved to have been written hundreds of years before him, and he is scientifically proved to have lived and fulfilled those prophesies (those that can be proved at least)

of course now you can deny that these people had any connection to God, but still that doesn't make it a fairy tale

present day, scientific research proves that people who follow the Christian lifestyle - guided by Jesus, show higher life satisfaction and personal happiness than the non-fairy tale believers, they also make more long-lasting and happy marriages and have lower cancer rates, too good for believing a fairy tale, right?

it is scientifically proven that Christian diet lifestyle (limited meat diet) significantly reduces cancer rate, but how could the ancients know? also proven that red meat increases sex drive, therefore consumption is limited under Christianity to focus on real love instead of hormone drive, how could the ancients know?

Jesus teaching makes perfect sense, and believers or not, most sensible people follow the basics at least, and under those the West world was built (best way of life right), a coincidence?

too many coincidences for one fairy tale


I agree there have been some things thought to be by God because there was no other explanation at the time, but why is this even important? the faith was never based on those anyway, just because we have an explanation for rain, it doesn't mean that Jesus was fake

but there are also things, like Jesus miracles that are marked as fake because there is no other explanation, so the contrary also holds, isn't that too convenient for atheists though?

there are still things that cannot be explained, some could be from God like Big Bang, some could not, but why does it matter as much? as long as we cannot bring back the dead, give consciousness/free will to something, or disprove it, or understand the Big Bang and where the quarks and photons come from, there is more than enough room for God, and I highly, highly doubt these will ever be achieved, and the answer is simple, the creation cannot reach the creator, only the other way round, and it has already happened

Wow... you're going to have to back that up.

Show me the peer reviewed scientific evidence for those claims please.