One of those nights, any help?

[DonFerrari]

Zkuq said:

SvennoJ said:

Still there's lots of room for improvement in PC gaming. Controller support for one thing.
Forza Horizon 4 will not work even when simply having a DS4 plugged in to charge. Got to disconnect any peripherals and charging controllers to use a XBox controller to play. (It will not work with DS4, I have tried many workarounds)
Alt-tab, why can't MS ever get this right. Why does it work for some, not for others and some end up crashing hard. PC is supposed to be a multi tasking machine until you ask it to multi task... The PS4 never has this problem. Even when the shitty browser crashes yet again, you can always resume the game

I think DS4 trouble is at least partially because as far as I know, there still isn't an official driver for it on PC (right?). An annoying situation for sure, especially considering how good the controller is (or at least I think so).

I think I've read that Alt+Tab is traditionally a problem because in the past, games have taken exclusive ownership of the graphics context, so other programs can't use it. I think Alt+Tab requires the developer to add support for Alt+Tabbing explicitly. I'm not sure whether that's the case with borderless 'fullscreen' though, but I think not - but it ought to cost some performance last I heard. Anyway, I imagine the whole graphics context thing is weight from way back to who knows where, and wouldn't be a problem if Windows was designed today from scratch. But alas, backwards compatibility can be a double-edged sword...

Anyway, if you're using Windows 10, I've noticed that even the hardest to Alt+Tab games can often be Alt+Tabbed if you open a new desktop (Win+Tab -> New desktop or Ctrl+Win+D to create a new one and Ctrl+Win+L/R Arrow to switch between desktops). It's annoying but can help in some situations that might otherwise be difficult to resolve. I think you might have to Alt+Tab and kind of get stuck before doing the desktop trick though, but I can't remember because it's been a while since I had to do that.

SvennoJ said:

Someone who play frequently also has far less downtime for updates in percentage than someone who plays once a week. I stopped checking in on Elite Dangerous since every time I wanted play for a little bit, an update was waiting again, with possible new driver updates needed and new balancing of graphics settings. Once it lost all my controller bindings as well after an update, 6 pages of settings ugh.

That's actually my problem with console gaming, because the updates are huge, download speeds are relatively slow, and things are never updated when I start my PS4. That said, I haven't had any trouble with updates once I've managed to download them, so no losing... tons of settings like you have on PC. :-/

The only time I have to wait for an update is when I just install a game and want to wait (because any non-MP game I have been able to start without update), other than that my PS4 games are all on auto update. So I never notice the need, just from time to time see a pop up saying X game was updated.