dane007 said:
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There were alot more than 2 seconds of gameplay. First trailer was pure gameplay and the one after had more than 2 seconds of gameplay. People expectations are unrealistic these days.
To show longer gameplay meant a show that last hours as alot of games were shown.
I have been following alot cgi game screenshot from his super pc and his games look like brand new with all the bell whistles when compared to current gen. An example metro latest game. If u have every bell and whistles on with Ray tracing, the difference is night and day to what current gen can do. Its like a brand new game lol.
Plus the games shown is not even complete. Alot was due next year lol. Games look much better closer to completion.
To each it's own I guess. For me, having that extra detail in textures, lighting, shadows, lod for further objects, added physics and locked 60fps s at 4k is sublime. I am hoping that with next gen AI gets alot better as current gen ai are quite stupid lol
eva01beserk said:
Im not forgeting anything, the july event showing way better games does not retroactively make this even any better. Im glad thouse extra fetures are there, but it dosent make a game next gen any more than x1x or ps4pro HDR made base games any more next gen.
You cant even consider 2 second compilations as "snippets". Again, pretty much every gaming site is critizicing that very fact as decitfull.
I have no doubt that it will be just as underwhelming on ps5, it was never part of the discussion. Yes lack of power, but more notably the cpu and the hdd. Any game still doing things considering thouse 2 factors can be upscaled or run at what ever framerate you want, they will still look and fell like 8th gen games.
Just think of this. 8th gen games, with everything you can see on screen at any given time is said to be 1-2gb in size. Thats because ram was 5-5.5gb available for graphics and still needed to be split to what ever else it needed for the game. if that gets upscaled it still wont be any bigger on next gen even though 9th gen will have like 12gb minimum free. 4k textures and a few things will add to it but iit will still have space not utilize. Can they add a lot to improve it? sure they can, but then it will look ovbiously better, almost like a diferent game and as we can see, thats not what we got on this presentation.
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3 seconds? My mistake, I take it all back. Dont pretend you dint know that was a hyperbole. And so they should extended. Why not? If you see the critisim online people whent in asuming 2-3 hours when they heard its all about gameplay. There are no other presentations from anyone else, so having all day for that would have been fine by all. Where this E3 where 5 others have a 2 hours each would be understandable, but not here.
I also follow CGI, not as much as you probably and sure thouse screenshots look amazing. But I also follow others on youtube whos main channels are about hardware comparasion and they show they actual gameplay with various components and while playing avove 60fps and the diference is hardly notiable. They actually have to freeze the frames and actually zoom in to notice thouse diference. Higher framerates stope being noticeable after a point. granted that varies from person to person but everyone has a limit on how many fps they can appreciate.
Again games in development tent to shoot higher than what eventually deliver and you can see that on almost every E3 as they need to downgrade and the final game is night and day, so now they should be better. Remember Anthem? Watchdogs? do I need to go on?
Im glad you like AI, as that is definetly held back by the cpu and I her some say that the hdd as well and the various animations and character details and possible actions are read directly from storage, so better storage and cpu means vastly better AI. Wich is something that does not change across gens, so if they make something the x1/ps4 can handle, the same AI will be implemented on ps5/xsx. There could be like small aditions and enhancements but like you said, they wont screw over the majority of players and offer a vastly diferent experience for last gen.
