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JWeinCom said:

Already been through this.  Those games got a boost of several million from being bundled that FF7 is not likely to get.  Not an apt comparison.  It would need a significantly higher baseline to compete with those games.  Considering Spiderman's week 2 in Japan was higher than FF7 is not a good look shortages or no.

No you have not.

Your bundle theory is evidently debunked from official data. All best selling games get bundles. Considering FF7 just became one of the biggest launches in Playstation exclusive history there is no doubt it will get future bundles.

Lmao at ignoring a 96% sell through because it doesn't fit with your fantasy.

Wyrdness said:

10m for FFVIIR is looking a bit harder at this point for a start it's not bundled like those games and looking at the second week performance its looking like 10m could be missed altogether for one the game had a 90% drop in Japan in week 2 while it also dropped in places like the UK. FFXV did 8m but was on multiple platforms to achieve that I doubt VIIR will hit 10m on PS4 alone.

You're completely wrong.

FF7R's launch is massively ahead of FFXV. FFXV shipped 6 million in two months. FF7R has pretty much sold 3.5 million in 3 days.

Funny you mention Japan, when in FF7R has already outsold FFXV in two weeks lol

There actually is a lot of doubt it will get a bundle, because not all best selling games do, at least not at the level of Uncharter 4 or GOW.

It's easier for Sony to bundle their own games, as they're willing to sacrifice sales of the individual games to move hardware.  Square on the other hand has much less interest in moving PS4 hardware, so depending on what Sony is offering, they might not accept.  It's much more cost efficient for Sony to bundle their own games, so unless they feel bundling a third party game is going to be a much bigger boost to sales then a first party game, they're going to go with the first party software.  And, with the PS4 launching this holiday, Sony doesn't really have as strong of an incentive to try to push PS4 hardware as hard anyway, so it's even less likely that they'll invest in a third party bundle rather than packing in some greatest hit games.

Generally non first party games that have been bundled in the west (not including limited edition bundles which don't have much effect on overall sales since they are limited and targeted towards people who would have bought the game anyway) have been games that launched much better than FF7, such as Red Dead 2 (4.6 million physical only), Fifa (4.3 million physical only for 18), and Call of Duty (3.7 physical only for WWII and 3.6 physical only for BLOPS 3). FFVII's launch is not as big as those.  And the games being bundled are from franchises that have a much better sales history, and had by that point proven to have strong legs.  It's not like Sony bases the decision on first week sales alone.  Also, the bundles mainly come from EA, Activision, and Take 2, who likely have a deal with Sony.

So, basically, bundling a game is a business decision that is influenced by a lot of factors.  It's not like it's automatic when you hit a certain number in your first week.  Comparing to other games that have been bundled, and considering the timing, it seems unlikely.  And even if it is bundled, it's getting bundled at a time when PS4 hardware sales are dwindling, as opposed to games like Uncharted 4 which got bundles at the peak, which are going to do a lot more for sales.  

Dunno why you think I fantasize about FF7 not selling as well as Uncharted 4 or GOW.  I actually like this game a lot better than those, and I assure you my fantasies are much grander than a game that I actually like not selling as well as other games.  I have no personal stake in this, but the facts are what they are.

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 23 April 2020