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Snoopy said:
JWeinCom said:

Uhhhhhh... what does objects reaching their full potential have to do with things being created?  

It means we can't come from nothing. Objects must exist and work coherently to create something as massive as the universe or life itself.

Sure?  So if objects weren't interacting we wouldn't have complex systems.  I still don't see what this has to do with creation.

Snoopy said:
SpokenTruth said:

Just like your example...that was a reach.

Yes, because something coming from nothing makes perfect sense. This happens like all the time.

We have no confirmed cases of something coming from nothing.  We also have zero confirmed cases of something being created by a god.  As far as we're aware neither has ever happened, so the two theories are on equal footing in that regard.