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JWeinCom said:
JWeinCom said:

https://www.fallacyfiles.org/specplea.html

If everything had to come from somewhere, then that would include god.  If god can exist without having been created by a being, than other things could as well.

Paperboy_J said:

Of course there is, just look in the mirror.  Do you have any idea how complicated the human body is?

Are you proposing that this complicated thing was created by something even more complicated?  In that case, did that complicated thing need to be designed as well?

What are you proposing?  Are you saying our bodies just "fell together" like this by accident?