JWeinCom said:
Paperboy_J said:
We had to have come from somewhere, no matter how you slice it. And since nothing can create itself (scientific fact), an eternal being is the only thing it could have been. Nothing else would make sense. |
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https://www.fallacyfiles.org/specplea.html
If everything had to come from somewhere, then that would include god. If god can exist without having been created by a being, than other things could as well.
Paperboy_J said:
Runa216 said:
So,your final argument on the matter is that you believe because you want to believe, not because there's any facts supporting your claim whatsoever.
If everything science is God, but God simply represents what we don't or can't know, then accept that 'god' is a metaphor and nothing more. There's absolutely no reason to believe in a sentient, omniscient, omnipotent being except because you want to. Nothing in our observable universe leads towards the idea that it was guided by anyone or anything higher. but because chaos doesn't fit in your worldview, you HAVE to believe it.
God may be a metaphor, but nothing more.
God may be a philosophical concept, but nothing more.
'God' exist as an idea, but the idea that 'god' is an entity simply beyond our understanding is arrogant, devoid of logic, irrational, and borne of a psychological need for comfort, not out of rational, scientific conclusion.
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Of course there is, just look in the mirror. Do you have any idea how complicated the human body is?
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Are you proposing that this complicated thing was created by something even more complicated? In that case, did that complicated thing need to be designed as well?
