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coolbeans said:
DonFerrari said:
I'm laughing with "older hardware doesn't limit developers, see BotW". We have had great games every gen, that doesn't mean the hardware wasn't limiting what was possible to do.

But that's the problem: hardware limitations on every console have been part of the game since gen 1.  Developers have very expansive dreams, but need to wrestle with time, resources, and their given hardware to put a viable product on store shelves.  I'm not saying "cross-gen FTW" here, just highlighting how this seems to be reneging an actual dialogue.

Yes I know that. The point is that since the hardware will always limit the software, when you include an older hardware then you also include more limitations that is a very logical statement. And of course having limitations doesn't forbid a game from being great, as I said we have had great games since NES and earlier. So claiming that a game is great even when a crossgen one was doesn't negate that being crossgen limits what is possible more than if it was only nextgen.

Azzanation said:
HollyGamer said:

What??????????????????? , Uncharted 2 and TLOU 2 is PS4 games not PS3 games nor Cross gen games . LMAO 

a good developer can understand the limit thus working out to fill and utilize the potential while learning the limit but it doesn't mean the limit is gone.

Is not about Visual, if it's just visual then this thread wont exist because Xbox series X can run the games which better frame rates, resolution and added affect , it's about game design , NPC, interactivity, phisch , simulation, and others thing that and probably some graphic that also affecting gameplay . Game design is not just about graphic but overal experience. 

Where did i say Uncharted 2? I said Uncharted 4.

Okay so lets ask this question. How bad is this gen for you? Has the hardware limits really affected your gaming that badly that you need all games to cross over to next gen?

I keep finding great games to play this gen and some games continue to push the envelope much further. You must be disapointed in FF7 Remake and upcoming Cyberpunk 2077 because they all use current gen hardware which has limited these games protential. Thats what you sound like.

DonFerrari said:
I'm laughing with "older hardware doesn't limit developers, see BotW". We have had great games every gen, that doesn't mean the hardware wasn't limiting what was possible to do.

Any reason you didnt reply to my post but dicided to post a reply directed towards my post?

As someone else mentioned already as a response, hardware limits had existed since Gen 1 and there will be hardware limits in Gen 9. Great games have been made on limited hardever since forever. Hence BOTW, a game designed on very limited hardware yet outshines all games this gen in terms of a quality game, limits or not, wont stop good devs from creating good games.

2 reasons, first there were more than one person saying it and second we have moderation ban on replying to the other. The person that already mentioned that we have limits and great games was myself just read it the person that replied to me basic just repeated what I said.



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