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Immersiveunreality said:
Vodacixi said:

They have reseted the timeline and the original course of events in the first act of the Final Fantasy VII Remake project. Whathever happens from here on out, it will be completely different from the original game.

It's like Terminator Genisys. It starts with the same story as The Terminator from 1984, they even shot some scenes 1:1... Until time travel and paralel universes kick in the first act of the movie. Then the second and third act are completely different from The Terminator... Because the story has been restarted. Rings a bell?

This is the exact same situation we are dealing with in FF VII Remake. The chronology, the plot, the course of events (future and past), who lives and dies... Everything has been reset. Final Fantasy VII as we know it has been rebooted. It's not a remake. It's a reboot.

Now you'll say: "But you don't know how the future parts will be. Maybe the story will still be close enough to the original game". And to that I say that, taking the spoilers into account, it's impossible that the story of the future parts of FF VII Remake will be consistent with the original chronology and plot. Because, again, the plot has been rebooted. They can't go back anymore. The future of FF VII story is uncertain and impossible to predict. Because it will be completely new. And I haven't heard of any remake in which you go almost blind even if you played the original. Reboots behave like that.

Square Enix lied about what they tried to sell. Some are upset about not getting what was promised. Some like what they got and don't care about the lie. But however each one of us take this situation, a lie is still a lie.

That is a flaw in your thinking,everything has not been reset but only adjusted as it greatly uses the same main storypaths of the original and reboots that on themselves are also remakes which is also a flaw in your logic do not do that.

But still by default this is a remake,as a reboot is a remake but it is not even the reboot you are thinking about cause you calculate some new elements in it a bit too weighty.

Come one do you think they lied with intent to consumers over something so obvious about a product that they consider one to bring people back to the franchise?

No, that's just not the case.  A reboot is not necessarily a remake.  A reboot restarts a franchise.  A remake is a new version of a particular game.  A game can be a reboot without being a remake or vice versa.

For example, Tomb Raider 2013 is a reboot.  It is intended to serve as a starting point for a new version of the Tomb Raider franchise.  Yet it has never been referred to as a remake, because it is not a remake.  It is not using any specific Tomb Raider game as its base, it is telling a completely original story, and its gameplay/visuals/environments/settings etc. are not from any particular game.  If Tomb Raider is a remake of a past game, what is it a remake of?

DonFerrari said:
Immersiveunreality said:

That is a flaw in your thinking,everything has not been reset but only adjusted as it greatly uses the same main storypaths of the original and reboots that on themselves are also remakes which is also a flaw in your logic do not do that.

But still by default this is a remake,as a reboot is a remake but it is not even the reboot you are thinking about cause you calculate some new elements in it a bit too weighty.

Come one do you think they lied with intent to consumers over something so obvious about a product that they consider one to bring people back to the franchise?

Not to forget that this is at least a trilogy and a company that want to stay on the market so lying and deceiving customers isn't how they would plan to make this a success.

Yeah... because developers have never misled consumers before... :-/  Inconceivable.