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DonFerrari said:
JWeinCom said:

When has a comic ever been remade?  I've never seen anything in the comic book industry referred to as a remake.  The Spider-man movie is not a remake of a comic book.  I'm not even sure how that would work.  I've been a comic book fan for the last two decades, and I've never heard of a comic book remake.

The bulk of your post talks about how you like the changes, and if that's so, then great for you.  Hope you enjoy the game.  Doesn't change the fact that this isn't what anyone else means by the term remake. 

If you call my pizzeria and order a large pizza and I come to your house with a giant slice of rye bread with salsa and cheddar cheese, you'd be confused and upset.  You wouldn't say "oh well we just need to expand our definition of what pizza could be" or "oh well that's just his definition of pizza".  You'd say this isn't pizza.  And you'd be right.  Because if everyone means one thing by a word, and I use that word to describe something different, then I am being misleading.

Let's assume though the word remake is vague for argument's sake.  Then we look to other things in the marketing to see what fans should have expected.

"Of course, all the memorable elements and key moments from the original have been faithfully reproduced, and you can enjoy experiencing those again."

There are moments that have definitely not been faithfully reproduced, and cannot be enjoyed again, and it is heavily implied that other moments will not be faithfully reproduced either.  And if Aeris lives as you would like, then one of the most important moments will not be reproduced.

"In terms of how faithful the remake is to the original Final Fantasy VII, from the perspective of the storyline, it is very faithful indeed." 

Also just not true.  Once you introduce all the meta and alternate reality stuff, this is not very faithful to the storyline.  Despite being asked several times, nobody can provide an example of a less faithful remake, so calling this "very faithful" is clearly misleading.

 "Well, the main story is still the same, but I have added in many new scenes that happen between the main events of the original, which show how the relationship between Cloud and the other characters deepened. [For example], Cloud's childhood friend Tifa shows him a flat in Midgar, and they come to live in the same building. It is a Japanese-styled flat and the scene itself is quite sweet. So, I want people to look forward to [those additions]."'

This is what people expected.  The main plot being the same, but details being added to fill in holes or flesh things out that did not rewrite the story or contradict the established plot.  Not what we got.

Based on how the word remake is used, and what the developers had said, this is not the product they have been advertising, and fans who wanted what was advertised have reason to be upset.

If you want to use your comicbook saviness you know fully well what is a reboot, since that is something they do every 5-10 year. And that isn't what was made here.

I don't think that I mentioned reboots or suggested we apply comic book standards to the gaming industry.  Plus I read Marvel which doesn't exactly do reboots.

If you want to use comic book terms however, this is most similar to a new imprint such as Marvel's ultimate line of comics which keeps the basics framework, but sets in a new continuity.  Just like that imprint things basically started off at the same point (spider bites boy, uncle ben dies, etc), but after establishing the basics, things spin off in new directions.  Although this also does share some elements with DC's line wide reboots such as Crisis on Infinite Earth where there is actually a conflict between multiple alternate timelines in the DCU.  

Again though, comics are such a different medium that it makes little sense to analogize them directly to video games.  To understand what remake should mean in this context, we should actually look at other games that are remakes.  And when compared to them, this is certainly a major outlier.  It's been asked several times, but nobody can provide an example of a remake that strays even nearly this far from the source material.  If you think of one let me know. 

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 10 April 2020