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OhNoYouDont on 28 March 2020
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EricHiggin said:
OhNoYouDont said:

I don't know if this is a serious challenge or you're making a joke here...but...

The reason the scientific method is considered trustworthy is because of its predictive power. While science doesn't produce truths, its approximations and models are effectively considered facts as a result of this.

Your comparison to a dusty old collection of documents written by ignorant fools by today's standards does not hold a candle to this process.

Now if the Bible or other religious text had some ability to predict the future by warning us about COVID 19 on a certain date in a certain location that would surely be something.

Critical thinking is seriously lacking in the religious community, but it's not that religious folks are incapable of thinking critically. There are countless critical thinkers who are religious - no, it's the blind spot that religion produces that is most troublesome.

The low quality OP probably should have resulted in a thread closure in my opinion. It was clear from the beginning that this wasn't a discussion, but an opportunity to proselytize. You're not interested in learning at all are you?

Did science precisely predict this Covid outbreak? Has is saved us all from it since?

You're too focused on the religion and science, when the point here was the free individual that's accepting or denying what those offer.

You have some who are 100% all in on religion, which then goes against science, while you also have some who are 100% all in on science, which goes against religion.

If certain religion and it's one and only God's teachings aren't useful, then why should science and it's "God particle" be the one and only that's useful?

One and only one being useful and all others being discarded is Nazi type thinking, no matter the subject, and look what that type of thinking led to. 

Like what was said before, what's important is improving where possible when failures occur.

You did not comprehend a single point I made and proceeded to prove my emphasized statement.

Yes, science is saving tons of lives of those impacted by COVID 19. How many has religion saved? Oh right, people continued to have religious gatherings and now entire churches have COVID 19. 

No scientist refers to the Higgs boson as "god particle" - a media name only.

Discarding bad and unreliable epistemologies (methods to determine what is true) is what rational thinkers do. Only if a method works ought we retain it.

Prayer is equally as effective as tossing a coin in a wishing well, which is to say that it is no more effective than doing literally nothing at all.

o_O.Q said:

"Science doesn't control how something gets used"

Well it couldn't since again science is not a noun, science is a verb, an action and actions are obviously informed by philosophy when it comes to sentient beings 

"it dictates how we should treat others"

all of the philosophy on the left when it comes to how society should be governed is atheistic and largely determined by what leftists would claim is science, do you disagree with that?

for example, when leftists say we should eat the rich, they claim this idea is based in scientific models showing increasing inequality correct?

Not really sure how you would confuse secular with atheistic either...

Last edited by OhNoYouDont - on 28 March 2020