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Intrinsic on 24 March 2020
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starcraft said:
Intrinsic said:

Please I hope you aren't like Zero...

Where are you getting 20% minimum gap from?

And I am beginning to think some people here don't really get how the PS5 APU and constant power&variable frequency thing works.

I would have tried to explain it...but some posters here are out for blood. 

I'll say this though, I have never said there isn't a gap. I am just saying that the gap is nowhere near as significant as some people seem to think. You don't have to take my word fr it. In time gues we would see. I even went onto explain how that gap would present itself in games...

I don't know what 'like zero' means sorry.

Saying the gap is nowhere near as significant as some people seem to think is a truism, same as saying the gap is much more significant than some people think.

As I said, the games will come and the framerates, resolutions and graphical outputs will tell the tale. Until then, all we have is a significant on paper spec gap, and a bunch of hot air.

The 20% is a guess. Like anything others have posted in here. You could say the minimum gap is anywhere from 15-30% (depending on whether you want to emphasise the CPU,, GPU or take an analysis like Notebookcheck's). Again, Sony have not confirmed the thermal limits of the console. We don't know if running the CPU at 3.5 requires running the GPU at 2.5 or vica versa. Hopefully we'll know well before launch for early adopters sake.

He seems to have it in his head that I am trying to slant/downplay the XSX... I am not, and have only talked to the strengths of all the consoles. Funny enough, I have even pointed out what I think is the biggest issue with the PS5 and haven't even said anything bad about the XSX. Even the one area that the PS5 has the XSX beat,I described as both something that would make much f a difference. Because while the PS5s SSD is fast? So is the XSX SSD.

Well...call me crazy, but I don't think the real-world difference would exceed 17%. Unless we want to go the sony is lying route and thePS5 would never hit its peak clock even though Cerny says it would run at these peaks most of the time.

And how I arrived at 17%, which mind you I think is generous, is by looking at the PS4/Xb1 and the PS4pro/XB1X. The hardware differences in these consoles were significant. SIGNIFICANT. And their performance difference pretty much ended up being about resolution and in the XB1X case (some cases)better/higher texture quality which should b expected being that it had more RAM.

In all those cases, the difference in compute was a near-identical match to the difference in resolution. And this has been the case for the past 7 years. You ca also look at GPUs from Nvidia in the 20xx series GPUs with a TF difference of 9 vs 11TF. The performance gap between them is also about proportional to their TF percentage difference.

Now looking at these coming consoles, there is not a single thing that has as much of a gap as any of the individual components from the current-gen vs their counterparts much less the combination of gaps these current-gen machines have. And some of these "advantages" or"gaps" are even understandable and necessary. Like if you have a 10TF console and a 12TF console. Then that 12TF console better has more memory bandwidth than the 10TF console. It needs more bandwidth.

But hey.. I could be wrong. This s just my opinion.