Digital Foundry Video: Hands-On With Xbox Series X + Impressions + Xbox One X Size Comparisons + Official Specs + Ray Tracing

[DonFerrari]

twintail said:

DonFerrari said:
The throughput of the SSD 2.4 while quite fast is slower than some already "old" SSD on the market, so either Sony solution is quite faster or Mark Cerny was at least very misleading on the "superior to any current SSD solution in the market".

Cerny talked about their SSD solution nearly whole year ago, and his words were about what was available in the market place back then. 

I still think we see a good SSD solution on the PS5 but it may be comparable to what PCs can take by time of release

At the time Mark Cerny announced his solution Samsung EVO 970Plus was already on the market, so it must be faster than that for he to not be lying. But at least we know that MS solution for compressing/decompressing could achieve up to 6.0 so that is faster than EVO 970Plus.

I know 2.4 is already super fast, but clear message is good.

ironmanDX said:

Nu-13 said:

How so? Even at $499, which is the likely price, the still imaginary series s cant be more than $100 cheaper with only a weaker gpu.

We're still only guessing at the features and spec differential at this point in time. It's probably going to have a smaller SSD, potentially less RAM and perhaps even skip having a disk drive. Maybe even the CPU soloution will differ.

We simply don't know. Seeing the higher spec'd X just adds a bit more weight in the rumour of it's existence. If you see it another way, that's fine.

Yep. Only GPU wouldn't allow over 100 difference. And we still haven't heard about reduction on RAM (I don't think will happen since the jump from last gen in amount is small, perhaps they choose a slower one) and CPU (probably can have less cores or slower speed if they want parity on perfomance and allow for balance).

EricHiggin said:

Intel calls their combined chips SOC's, and even though AMD calls their's APU's, they and MS are referring to them as SOC's? Common now. They might mean the same thing in the end, but AMD needs to be a little more aggressive about gaining some long term marketing narrative. Mind share leads to market share.

I wonder how clear about the external SSD vs external HDD MS (and PS) will be? The choice between a $99 4TB external HDD and a $99 1TB XB SSD will seem like a fairly simple choice to most consumers. The more proprietary SSD's they sell though, the cheaper their cost will be, so I don't see them being all that clear about how external storage works and how you don't need the SSD. Unless you don't want to have to shift your games around, and how much of a pain could that really be?

Shifting games around wouldn't be to painful, it is USB3.2 and you can use a decent HDD so it shall not be that slow. Still the best part about the 1TB SSD is that you can just pick your SDD and go to a friend house and start playing there on the fly without needing to install or transfer.

Leynos said:

Don't want to sit through techno-babble vids. Just one question.

Will it work on my 1080P TV?

For sure if your TV have HDMI (almost certainly it will right?) then you should have no issues, at most it will use supersample just like PS4Pro and X1X to have the best 1080p image possible.

BraLoD said:
Propietary SSD and no HDD is actually very concerning.
I hope Sony doesn't follow the same route, because having only like 8-13 games installed is pretty bad.
Having a HDD to move to SSD what you are playing is much better than uninstalling.
Based on Vita SD card prices I would be stuck with 1TB forever.

Also only 16GB of ram is less than what I expected, and I still expect Sony to come with 20+.

And still using those batteries on the controller... damn.

Aside from that the system sounds pretty good actually. Pretty beefy.
Having the ability to backup your XBO to XSX is great.

Seems like the controller will use internal batteries.

You can use regular HDD from what is know, but will only play directly from it for last gen games. For Series X gen you need to copy the game from the HDD to the internal drive. I think it is a very acceptable tradein option for the ones who don't want to buy the SDD, and even the HDD isn't needed if you don't install/play several games at once.

Also the SDD will have the ability to pick it and go to a friend house and start playing on the fly.