Rumor: Xbox "Lockhart" specs leaked, is $300

[DonFerrari]

Mr Puggsly said:

Nu-13 said:

The general feeling is yes if the only difference is resolution.

I'd like to see Series S be the best selling hardware of the 9th gen.

If the only disparity is a less capable GPU, then it would mostly be lower resolutions and maybe other visual tweaks when necessary.

Do people generally feel it could outsell PS5 though? No. Unless it was like $299 vs $599. But I think Sony is really aiming for competitive price.

Yep PS5 at 399-449 (perhaps even 499) against Series S at 299 PS5 most likely would outsell as people could think "twice or triple the performance for just 100 or 150 bucks more it is a steal". But at 599 (and Series X also 599) people would really look and think, nope PS5 isn't worth twice as much and Series S would be the best seller most likely.

That is what makes the time before official announcement of specs and price for all systems exciting and speculation rampant.

goopy20 said:

victor83fernandes said:

4TF xbox is just a rumour, lets wait for the reveal

You don't have to worry about pushing games because all xbox exclusives will also be on current gen consoles, so I doubt xbox will have any graphical amazing games, sony will definitely impress more with exclusives such as horizon 2 and spiderman 2 as those will be exclusive to the new hardware.

I doubt the ps5 will be any more than 9TF, so game developers will optimize probably around that, but people who buy the cheap xbox are not people who care about graphics at all, they just want to play the new fifa and call of duty, even 720p would suffice, they don't care. The real hardcore gamers are buying the high end models.

I see no reason whatsoever to buy the cheap model, even on minimum wage the series X and ps5 pro will be 10days of work worth of wages. If you cant afford that, then you should not jump into next gen early as games will stay at high price for much longer.

And if you sell your old console, lets say I sell my xbox X for 250 to buy the series X at 600, the actual cost will be 350 for the high end model, that's 5 days of work, very worth it.

PS - I highly doubt Microsoft would put out a console 3x weaker than their top console, I would understand if the series X came 2 or 3 years after, but both at launch? That's a huge gap, if PS5 has a cheaper 8TF model with bluray drive at 400dollars, then xbox has no chance of gaining market

Sony now has a huge advantage, they already know what Microsoft is doing, so they can now plan on how to market better and price accordingly to compete, never show your cards first, bad move Microsoft. Its like chess, the trick to win is to wait for your opponent to make a mistake.

I'm not too worried and I'm sure most developers will target the ps5 as the base console. I'm more disappointed and baffled by MS's decision making going into the next gen. On one hand they're getting me all excited with Series X, it looks amazing, I expect it to be expensive and I want one. But then they go ahead and say "Here's our beastly 12 Flops Series X, oh and by the way, it won't have any games made for it for the next 2 years as everything will be cross gen". Then we get all these rumors about a 4Tflops budget version, which would play the exact same games, just not in native 4k and 60 or even 120fps for the remainder of the upcoming console generation. It's almost as if they don't want me to buy a Series X lol. As I said before, if people really cared that much about 4k and/or a higher fps, the ps4 pro and X1X would have sold a lot better.

If all of this is true, for the next 2 years, we would see a rack of ps5 exclusive games on one side, and on the other side we'll see Xbox games with a sticker on it that says "optimized for Series X". I just don't think it will be a great selling point for the Series X. I remember Sony saying "next gen won't start until we say it does", which sounded very arrogant at the time. But they're actually right because if the ps5 wouldn't launch, no developer would be making any true next gen games. Ps4 would still be the base console and Series X would just get 4k/120fps versions of those exact same games.

Eeeeerrrr even though I prefer what I think will be Sony approach of the last PS4 developed game being Ghost of Tsushijima and every game after that being only on PS5 (reason why they haven't announced a game in quite a long time) Xbox strategy of crossgen for a couple of years (as some have said that doesn't mean 2021 and 2022, but most likely this year - like Halo Infinite - and the next year) isn't something really new or odd. Almost every gen we have seem most 3rd party companies release crossgen, until that title see a big dump on sales (like CoD and Fifa that got crossgen releases for previous gen well into the next gen), and also some titles that were released either as crossgen or received a port in the start of the gen like TLOU (which done wonders on the remaster), BotW (which outsold the own system on the first months due to stock constrains for Switch).

So yes we can speculate how much (and probably not that much) the crossgen will limit the Series X version, but that in itself isn't a problem on the MS strategy. I don't like as a gamer because I want the best version of the games I like, but as company strategy MS is fine on crossgen.