Is Bidens campaign dead? (EDIT: Well, this was turned around completely.)

[Nuvendil]

SpokenTruth said:

Nuvendil said:

Sanders' plan isn't just free healthcare.  He has a ton of features in his plans that do resemble a sort of "diet" version of traditional socialism, not the Nordic Model/Swedish Model that he references as being his alleged inspiration.  I've honestly been debating doing a whole series of threads on the issues with the comparison he constantly invokes.  His platform is riddled with issues.  And I mean actual issues, not McCarthyist tinfoil hat nonsense like that one reporter who said he would execute people.  

If you have the data, lay it out.  Always better to be informed.  Though I myself don't see much of his plans reaching beyond the Nordic Model. 

Keep in mind, one program is far different from an entire economic model being based on classic socialism as was alluded to by Sales2099.  We have several markets or portions of the economy that are fully under government control but no one would date say those programs are the slippery slope to Venezuela, Cuba, old Vietnam, etc...  Which were far more communistic with totalitarian authorities than just socialistic economies.

I just might.  I have developed quite a lot of political ideas recently.  Being relatively detached from this primary as a moderate conservative, it's mainly been a lot of food for thought.

The basic TL;DR is that his tax plan, approach to student debt, regulatory ideas, and sheer breadth of government spending and involvement in some industries would actually be pretty severely out of bounds in the Sweden people admired in the 2000s to 2010s.  I think I will do the posts actually, but it's going to be a lot of data :P

I just hope when I do, we can have a dialogue.  I think there's a LOT that we need to fix, but I think the "revolution or status quo" dichotomy I'm seeing build up is obscuringmany potential options.