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victor83fernandes on 09 March 2020
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last92 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Most of that was addressed by launch, I don't think Kinect was even required but still bundled at launch and removed months later.

What didn't change was discussion about the GPU disparity. Either way, I just think its funny the OP cherry picked X1X as where teraflop numbers became a topic. Obviously it started years before with the 8th gen specs.

Well, the price difference was the biggest problem, and that stayed for a few months if I remember correctly.

I agree though that power stayed a relevant topic for a long time. But I still think that wasn't the biggest factor that led to PS dominating the whole gen. That's something only people on the web care about. It's still true, however, that MS has been focusing on power and tflops much more than Sony in the last few years. Looking at PS exlcusives for 2020 and how good they look vs what xbox one x is getting...well, I can't help but wonder if all this focus on tflops really means anything. And looking at xbox one x sales, I really thing that power is one of the least important characteristics, provided the gap is not too big.

Xbox had big issues at launch

1 - All the bad word of mouth about needing online check in every day and not being able to use second hand games

2 - The resolution difference

3 - Forced kinect

4 - Higher price

5 - Weaker hardware

6 - Design of the console with external power pack

7 - No rechargeable controller

8 - UI being too cluttered and complex

9 - PS4 controller was praised for the touchpad, led light and microfone

10 - Non replaceable hard drive

11 - Installs were a mess, I remember a lot of people complaining. On ps4 you inserted the disc and started playing in 30seconds-1 minute, on xbox you had to install the full game first 20-30min, and then you had to download and install the updates, and then you could play. It was a huge mess, furthermore, if you wanted to start the game while not updated you needed to disconnect the internet. PS4 was just way better, you could play any games without updating, never had to mess with the internet settings and so on

12 - People found it weird the discs being in the left side of the cases, never been done before on any console or PC

13 - PS4 had a free game with the online subscription, Microsoft only did the same much later.

And many more complaints

Last edited by victor83fernandes - on 09 March 2020