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Pemalite said:
JRPGfan said:

Good exsample Archangel.
But thats just 1 card, from older card series with old tech.

here is a newer one: 
 AMD 5700XT (9.75 Tflops) vs  Geforce 2080ti (13,45 Tflops).

5700 xt is ~9,75 Tflops  and about ~30% slower than Nvidia 2080 Ti (which is 13,45 Tflops as you said).

That means in terms of performance, AMD GPUs can basically match performance to Tflop rate, with nvidia cards.
It varies from card to card, and technology inside.

Nvidia lead isnt as insane as people make it out to be, atleast if your useing the newer 5700xt (RDNA1 series).


Edit:

The technology inside the Playstation 5 and Xbox Series X, will both be RDNA 2.
Newer card architecture.

If Xbox series X, is really 12 Tflops, its performance will probably be reeeeeally close to a 2080ti.

1) Teraflops is bullshit in trying to gauge performance.

2) The lead nVidia has is substantial... Remember AMD is an entire manufacturing node smaller than nVidia, that advantage disappears this year, both will be 7nm.

3) Teraflops doesn't tell us the performance of the Ray Tracing cores... Which is the big new next-generation graphics feature coming to a console near you.

4) When the Xbox Series X finally releases... The Geforce 2080Ti will be last generation graphics technology and will likely fall to around the mid-range in terms of performance.

Permalite this is reguarding the "12 tflop" number of rumored Xbox One X / Playstation 5, vs a Geforce 2080.


1) yes, kinda.

2) this isnt relevant to the debate.  Right now, its  Geforece 2080ti Tflops vs Future Console Tflops.  I just pointed out RDNA 1 is ~equal to nvidia (perf to flops).

3) this isnt relevant to the debate.  Right now, we re not debateing how much or to what degree ray-traceing will be shown in upcomeing games.

4) yes, next gen PC graphics cards, will once again be far ahead.

--->  However the orginal point Archangel came out with, was that Consoles will be drastically weaker than a Geforce 2080 ti.
(because of $$$-tag says so)


Thats what we re debateing right now.
Will the playstation 5 / Xbox One X, be drastically weaker than a current Geforce 2080ti?

My logic says, it wont be.
Consoles if their 12 Tflop should be close to current Geforce 2080ti's.

GCN -> RDNA 1 -> RDNA 2, should be enough to make that happend.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 09 March 2020