Is Bidens campaign dead? (EDIT: Well, this was turned around completely.)

[Eagle367]

Dulfite said:

Eagle367 said:

I'll be honest. The Iran deal withdrawal had the potential to be fa3r worse and I hope it resolves quickly but that won't happen if trump is president.

And the climate agreement hasn't been the call to action as much as it's a vain agreement to pretend like something is being done when it's not. Trump's actual deregulation is the problem. Being in the climate agreement is non binding and not really useful either way. 4 more years of trump aren't bad enough to be worse than Biden in my opinion but 8 years of trump might very well be. That's my honest take on it.

But Bernie Sanders is not out yet and he is the best option. It's not even time to think about whether you will support Biden if he's the nominee. That's a defeatist attitude. The time is to mobilize and drag the youth to vote for the best option, not the lesser of two evils. This fight is far from over and I still believe we can beat the establishment. 

I believe I read something yesterday that the youth vote was down in 10/14 states on Super Tuesday and is down, overall, compared to 2016. Bernie won a lot more of the youths % wise but apparently less of them are voting than in 2016 in the Democratic primaries. That is the opposite of what Bernie needs to win the general election. Biden could win a general election without the rough because middle aged and older people actually like him. Bernie needs the youth because the older one gets the more they think him radical.

I say this openly as a conservative, by the way. I have no idea who will win. I'd prefer any social conservative other than Trump, but he's what we've got and I have to vote to support baby rights.

If I can't have Trump I'd rather have Biden than Sanders, at least policy wise (but I'm very concerned for Biden's mental wellbeing as I am for Trump's). Sanders seems to be the most mentally stable of the three, but his policies are way too far for me. I disagree with almost his entire platform. Honestly if Trump didn't appoint pro life judges I'd probably vote third party or not at all based on this selection because that issue is by far the most important to me. Someone else's life being an inconvenience isn't an excuse to murder them.

You are the prime example of why Joe will lose. He has no chance of expanding his base. The democrats that will vote for Joe will also vote for Bernie, just like Clinton. The republicans will vote for Trump over Joe, like you are and just like Clinton. If anyone has a ceiling, it's a moderate corporatist democrat. The imaginary conservative democrat voter doesn't exist and there's no use going there. The aim is to get people to vote who don't. And those are the people Bernie does best with, whether the youth or the independents. That's why I said to mobilize and drag the youth to vote because they have become too apathetic to all parties. They believe the DNC will rig it anyways so what's the use anyways. But if Bernie wins the primaries, they are much more likely to come out and vote in the general than the primaries. 

The best chance of beating Trump is Bernie. Trump can beat Bernie but it's harder for him. Trump can more easily beat Joe. 

Finally, to be honest, I don't get your stance. If you are pro-life, universal healthcare and education should be a priority. Someone who is living by doesn't have enough money for healthcare seems to be more important than a clot of cells that haven't even specialized into brain cells or heart cells or other organs. I don't endorse killing babies but even the latest of abortions aren't carried out on babies. There is a process to becoming a human baby and the cut off is vague but intelligent policy can be made to differentiate between a baby and a precursor to a baby. I'm against late stage abortion as well, but m also against the already born people dying or being homeless because they are poor. 

Trump does a lot more anti-life things than most democrats and Bernie is more pro-life than most other politicians.