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Azzanation said:

Colteastwood is actually correct on this one. To buy a capable PC running 12TF fully optimised for games with a State of the art SSD drive and motherboard would cost an arm and a leg.

Lets not act like TF mean absolutely nothing, for consoles its a much bigger deal since they are designed to run pedal to the metal so a 12TF console will most likely run better than a 12TF PC.

In saying that, that doesn't mean there are no PCs that are more powerful, of course there is and always will be, however for the price point rumoured to be $600-$700+, its a very capable machine, outperforming majority of PCs that gamers own, even the Xbox One X was outperforming the common gaming PC. My PC cost me $2500 for a 9TF GPU with 8Gigs of GDDR5X, the Series X is running 16Gigs of GDDR6! and it will cost less than half the price of my PC.

Also marketing will always be marketing, console makers always opt for the marketing choices on what is the going hype. Blast Processing, Bit Wars, Emotion Engine, Cell, and now TF. Its nothing new.

There have been numerous times where he's been called on getting his info wrong, as well as his daily attempts at shoving his own forms of fanboy propaganda around. I would never use Colt as anything in terms of spec or hw information. 

This is a guy who built a "custom" PC some years back, played a few games, uploaded a couple of vids, then went back to Xbox since then and dunked on the PC when 1X was near release, and since then, the guy's been full on dunk mode towards both PC and PS. He's not anywhere remotely neutral like he's claimed before, as well as his general stance with hw. I wold never trust anyone like Colt, not in this life or the next.

No, I didn't say for it to mean nothing, but the way it's being spread about and twisted and solely focused on, it's making it akin to an end all to be all card for a few console gamers out there. It's the new "blast processing" spin, or the new "secret sauce", and it's become monotonous in it's use by console folk out there. I still remember the crap being spewed about "coding to the metal", and how it was going to magically bring consoles above PC again, and now we're seeing it with Tflops, and even right now, right here, you're proclaiming the same. It's like you're completely ignoring the fact that RDNA 2 will also be available for PC within the year. PC isn't going to magically be toppled or put so far or even far behind in general.

Of course, the price point, the trump card, the smoking gun, the ace in the hole. I've seen Colt use the price argument when faced with unfavourable odds, even going so far as to bring out the old "gotta include monitor, OS, KB+M, DVD drive etc. Of course lesser hw is going to come at a cheaper price, but at the end of the day, you get what you paid for. I can't for the life of me remember a time when I bought a superior product, or anything that was so over the moon amazing, and it being cheap as chips, I really cannot, because honestly, why waste that sort of money as a business?. 

That's good for you that you spent the money that you did. It was your choice, just like it was mine to go for what I wanted in terms of PC hw, but I'm not going to turn around and give a massive cheer for next gen hw, let alone it's price point, because that doesn't net me anything, and I don't even feel that I need to be humbled by a plastic box, over what I'm currently running with. My HW gets me where I want to be in terms of performance/visuals, and the last thing I'll ever need, is another plastic box, when I could just upgrade my parts, and besides, my GPU has more than enough power for what I need it to do. 

And no, you won't need to tell me the obvious "you don't need to get the console then", I already knew that, I'm just pointing out that my PC hw does what it says on the tin, and that the price factor was not of a hindrance to me. 

Yeah, I know it's nothing new, but it doesn't stop it from spreading misinformation and annoying use of words that also end up getting twisted and used in the wrong manner.

Last edited by Chazore - on 09 March 2020

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