| Chazore said: You get crap like "Ain't nothin gonna beat X series X, there ain't no PC with enough flops to beat it!", and that's just one example of the crap some people spread over there. Colteastwood is doing a bang up job on spreading misinformation and making Tflops his main boasting point for Xbox, to a point where he's downplaying PS5's supposed specs, and then his fanboys downplaying PC at the same time. I wish that Xbox's marketing team wasn't so high up on spreading bullshit information or trying to warp it to make it sound like it'd be something the casual or laymen folk would know about (but they don't, so now we're seeing this shit spread like wild-fire, just like "blast processing" from the old days). I honestly wish it'd stop, because it just makes some folk look really, really stupid. |
There are groups on PC, Playstation, Switch and Xbox... All spread "FUD" and "Hyperbole". - What I try and do is remove the rubbish.
| victor83fernandes said: You're missing the point, Microsoft NEEDS to compete with playstation, they wouldn't launch a much weaker console, unless they want to come in 3rd place yet again for the 3rd time. In fact that would be free advertising for sony, it would be all over gaming news and word of mouth that ps5 is way more powerful, everyone would just pay a bit more and get the ps5. Maybe thats what microsoft wants, I get a feeling they've been wanting to quit gaming consoles for a long time now, they aren't even trying anymore. |
Great. Then let Microsoft advertise.
If they propagate bullshit, I will call them out on it... And if you know me on these forums... I will call Nintendo and Sony out on it as well.
| victor83fernandes said: If ps5 base console is 450dollars, it would be at least 9 teraflops, xbox would be a laughing joke if it is less than half the graphical power, people would just joke that it isn't even next gen while ps5 is the true next gen. Not to mention there wont even be exclusives on xbox for 2 years. No one would buy it. And a console without a disc drive? See how well the xbox one S all digital did? It didn't sell much at all. Most people would rather pay a bit more and get the option of disc drive.
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How does price have anything to do with flops? How would lockhart be less than half the graphical power?
The Xbox One SAD's failure might not be because people actually want a disc drive... It could also be partially be the fault of pricing, the regular Xbox One S isn't that much more expensive... And when discounted is often the same price or cheaper anyway.
victor83fernandes said:
At 300dollars they would never in a million years put a 1terabyte ssd, that would cost half the price of the console parts (without the controller), unless they put HDD instead, the xbox X uses HDD not ssd. |
Not all SSD's are the same price, performance or quality.
Wait until we get more information before jumping to conclusions, could be just a cache setup.
Conina said:
Both Geforce GTX 1650 Super (4.9 TFlops) and Radeon RX 5500 XT (5.2 TFlops) are on par with a Radeon RX 590 (7.1 TFlops). The graphic performance of a 4 TFlops Lockhart would probably be on par with the 6.2 TFlops of the Xbox One X and wouldn't have the CPU-bottleneck. So average performance of the Xbox One X with better frametimes / less slowdowns. |
Likely faster. We need to remember that Lockhart -is- using RDNA2 which is 50% more performant/efficient than RDNA 1 which in turn is 50% more performant/efficient than GCN.
Conina said:
The point is that a XSS (Xbox Series S) is probably cheaper to produce than a X1X (Xbox One X) while being at least as fast as the X1X and avoiding some bottlenecks (CPU, RAM, loading times). |
Yeah it would be if they can reduce the complexity of the power delivery and cooling system.
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