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Pemalite said:
victor83fernandes said:

2 - 4 Teraflops Is way below the current generation xbox X, even below the ps4 pro, that wont happen

You are way to focused on teraflops.
Even at 4 teraflops it should still be significantly faster than the Xbox One X in graphics duties.

Sogreblute said:

2: Teraflops is not the be all end all for GPUs. There is a lot of misconception from this. You can't use Teraflops to compare GPUs from different architectures. This has been proven time and time again. 

You can't even compare it with the same architecture.

You get a GPU of the same "name" like the Geforce 1030 for example... Even at the same "Teraflops" the DDR4 variant will be half the speed of the GDDR5 variant.

It's a big marketing hurdle as you can see.

shikamaru317 said:
victor83fernandes said:

There is no way this is true, like at all

1 - There is no reason for a 300 dollar price point, consumers are more than willing to pay minimum 400 for next gen

2 - 4 Teraflops Is way below the current generation xbox X, even below the ps4 pro, that wont happen

3 - Microsoft will not risk the bad marketing and the jokes again this generation, launching a new gen console weaker than the current gen

4 - Microsoft will not risk launching a base console way weaker than ps5 base console, they cant afford it as they don't have the exclusives to swing them, unless they are trying for a reason to get out of the console market, possible

5 - If this is true then Ill definitely wait a couple years before I buy into Xbox again, because the future is too uncertain, unlike the ps5 which is guarantee huge success and many exclusives for at least 7 years.

1. There is a big reason. If PS5 is $450 as rumored, they can undercut them by $150 and have a cheap option available for budget conscious gamers right from the start of the gen. Sure it will be quite a bit less powerful than PS5 and XSX, but some people care more about saving money than they care about having the best graphics. Just look at how the Xbox One S All-Digital edition at $150 was one of the best selling console SKU's on Black Friday week last year. 

2. You're placing too much emphasis on flops. Supposedly 4 tflops on RDNA 2 is a good bit more powerful than 6 tflops on GCN, the GPU architecture that XB1 X and PS4 Pro used. Also, this system won't be aiming for 4K like XB1 X did, supposedly the target is 1080p-1440p on next gen games that will be 4K on XSX and PS5. 

3. See #2.

4. I don't see how having a cheaper console option than Sony hurts them at all against PS5, lol. 

5. That's your prerogative. 

Budget conscious gamers are not early adopters. This SKU makes more sense in the second year and then maybe with 6tf for the same price.
If they don't care about the best graphics, why no simply play all the games on the current gen consoles for another year or 2?

The flops is a marketing problem

A cheaper (much slower) option looks like an anchor weight for its big brother. Now a 1/3rd as fast console has to be supported as well all next gen. For me it was actually the other way around. I was very close to buying a XBox One S, seemed to fix everything wrong with the first one. But then the X was announced as well. The S felt inferior from that point on but the X was CAD 600 here. So I ended up with neither.

Last edited by SvennoJ - on 07 March 2020