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Kai_Mao on 04 March 2020
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peachbuggy said:

Yes, sure, Sony's 1st party games can reach Nintendo levels. As long as they continue literally giving them away!

Too bad for you, Nintendo also bundle so many of their games.

RolStoppable said:

The reason why revenue doesn't work as the metric to determine market leadership in the console business is because you quickly face the situation that Microsoft would have to be recognized as the #2 in the business on occasion despite Nintendo actually being clearly more popular than them. So if you continued to use revenue as the primary metric, you'd inevitably make yourself look ridiculous because you'd go against all common sense.

Console sales will always be the metric to determine who is the market leader in the console business, because unlike revenue, they actually tell us how many costumers there are.

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One important thing I want to say at this point is that people in this thread don't seem to understand why Sony's profits increased by so much with the PS4. It's not because of digital game sales or first party game sales on the whole or overall software sales. It's because of PS+ subscriptions, because they account for the lion share of the PS division's profits. PS+ subscriptions are the biggest factor by far, yet people don't mention them.

Completely wrong lmao

We've already been through the revenue thing with Amazon, Uber etc. Just because you aren't willing to accept doesn't invalidate it. MS gaming division prob includes all their PC and mobile stuff as well, and yeah they have a fair amount of the market because they sell a lot of third party software. 

Most of Nintendo's bundles lead to increase in prices, not necessarily selling them for free. The Mario Odyssey, Smash, and Pokemon bundles were basically a $300 + the game bundles. The only bundle that was a nice deal was the limited Black Friday Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Bundle at $300, but it was the older version of the Switch when the newer (and better battery) version of the OG Switch was already out.

Sony recently had a PS4 Pro with three free games. Great deal, but I don't think those sales are equal to that of Nintendo's first party sales as Nintendo's games rarely get sales and the prices that are a sale are usually close to $40. You can basically get games like God of War or Spiderman for $20. So I expect better sales of Sony's first party games because they cut the price not too long after they get released. Nintendo's first party sales are impressive because they are still selling at $40-60 prices.