Do gamers really want Cloud gaming?

[sales2099]

goopy20 said:

sales2099 said:

- He also said cloud gaming is a convenience and will never be as responsive as traditional gaming. People have been speculating the “last gen” since Ps3/360. He also said 10 years +. That plus could mean any number, literally any number. 

- “Does not care”. Then why all the PR for the past year? Why even make the thing? Clearly they want to promote options, and you bet they will market the Series X this launch. Of course they would prefer you buy a Series X, but if you don’t care for one they have other options. 

- Your last sentence is accurate but this helps traditional gaming just as much. 

Again why you pretending it’s all up to the Series X? You know Lockhart is a thing and will be official soon enough. And people more technical then I explained to you that it’s more “scientific fact” to build high and scale down, which has nothing to do with cloud gaming preferences btw. 

So yes, your quotes were taken out of context to say the least. 

He didn't say never, he said around 10 Years. Look at it this way. If MS is convinced that after next gen, we will all be playing in the Cloud and they will become the netflix of gaming. Why would they then care about winning the console race? Phil even said he doesn't want to be in another format race with Nintendo and Sony, which simply means selling Series X consoles is not their top priority next gen. So why did they make it? Of course they want to sell it, just like the they want to sell the $200 elite controller and X1X, but they didn't expect those things to be mass market products. They were niche products for those who are willing to pay a premium price for a premium product. That's why I think Series X will be pretty expensive. It's also why making their exclusives cross gen and putting them on GP from day one actually does make sense.

We will see if the games will be scaled down from Series X or if they will be scaled up from X1 as the base platform. But like I said, if reaching more players through GP has a higher priority than selling Series X boxes, it kinda makes sense that they will design them so the lowest common denominator isn't getting left behind. Maybe I'm totally wrong here and they are willing to take a big hit on each console sold, sell them for $399 and try to reach a 100m installbase. But if it's $599 or higher, I'm sure they know it's not going to sell those kind of numbers. Financially it would then not make sense to focus too much on the Series X version of their exclusives, when 80% of the sales will likely come from the X1 and main stream pc gamers.

  

I’ll say it again. He said streaming will never be as responsive as traditional gaming. He said 10 years +. I can’t stress enough he said + because nobody can predict an industry that far later. 10 years later he can easily say another 10 + years. Your whole argument is null and void because you not only took a quote out of context but you neglected another where he admitted it’s just a convenience.  

Of course Series X will be expensive, nobody is disagreeing with you. That’s the premium gamer console and Lockhart is the mass market console. Why won’t you acknowledge the existence of Lockhart?

It’s kinda hilarious you STILL don’t understand what GP is. It merely changes your buying habits from buying outright to a sub model. Like me dropping cable and get Netflix. Except here I can still buy games outright. That’s the point...it’s all options. Nothing is replacing anything. 

Stay on topic....it’s your thread. It’s about people wanting to use cloud gaming. This isn’t about Series X or Game Pass.