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Jaicee said:
JWeinCom said:

If I'm understanding you correctly, then you'd limit female bathrooms to those who can pass as a woman?  That begs the question, by whose determination?  

Look, I'm not exactly asking for pre-entry strip-searching of  anyone for a genital check (ew!), jeez! I'm just saying that if somebody who is very obviously male is in the women's room with me, I should be able to protest that without penalty because it would make me extremely uncomfortable. That is all. I don't think that's an unreasonable position to take.

The thing I always find ironic about the bathroom debate is that the bathroom laws actually don't change anything. They are supposedly brought in to stop pervvy men going into women's toilets and watching them. Thing is, what said man is doing was illegal before the law as well. And if they are intent on peeping, the new law isn't going to persuade them not to, they'll do it anyway.

Then there are FTM transpeople. They are legally forced to use to female toilets, although many of them look so stereotypically masculine you'd never guess. I imagine it must be so awkward for them, legally you have to use the ladies toilets but your physical appearance means everyone sees you as a man and your likely to get repeatedly challenged and told to use the mens. That's actually where youd rather go but it's illegal. I bet when they say their trans its then assumed they are MTF rather than FTM which then exacerbates the problem.