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DonFerrari said:
Nu-13 said:

Realistic =/= pessimistic. And again with this shipped stuff? SOLD THROUGH numbers are what matter and the gap between shipped and sold will quickly shrink until it eventually dissapears. It has to SELL another 14m after dec 2019 to reach 120m and that's unlikely at the current pace. And let me get this straight, you complain that I'm using actual recent numbers to predict future sales while you keep a prediction from 2 years ago based on old numbers?

Shipped numbers will eventually all become sold numbers, and for PS4 to reach 120M needs to ship 10M, which will probably be done in 2020. So your "never" prediction will unlikely happen.

You are using imprecise number to predict.

And the gap between shipped and sold will shrink and dissapear during the end of a system's life. The ps4 is not tracking to sell or shipp anywhere near 10m or 11m (the actual amount to reach 120m) in 2020, so I don't know where that "probably in 2020" of yours comes from.

I am using tangible numbers. What are you using?