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SammyGiireal on 19 February 2020
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Hynad said:
SammyGiireal said:

Interestingly enough even in their own era, it scored higher than FFVII. It was and remains better than it. 24fps wasn't a flaw, that's how most games ran on the N64. It wasn't noticeable then. You talk about not executing the concepts well enough, because WW and TP improved upon it (according to you). Well FFVII was improved upon by FFIX (except the story) games get refinements over time.  But in their era, Ocarina was not only much more impressive a game, but was the definition of a masterpiece. 

Your opinion is in the minority, especially when it comes to control and headache inducing framerate. I don't remember getting headaches from it, but then again some people get seizures while playing games.

Final Fantasy VII was called "quite possibly the greatest game ever made" when it came out. Many outlets from that time praised it to no end, and there was nothing bigger than that game when it came out. Even players who weren’t interested in that type of games prior to its release, were intrigued by it and got into it.

So what will it be? It came out prior to Zelda, so you should apply your reasoning and also say that "for its time it was exceptional and a masterpiece. No other games was doing what it did when it came out."

Or do you only reserve this kind of arguments when it suits you?

Never said FFVII was a bad game. In fact I have said it is my 3rd best game from that era (behind OoT and Mario 64). It was well recieved you quoted an IGN review I believe, and it got a 9.5 which was about right, the same source gave OoT at 10.0, clearly the better game, which is what this argument is about. 

If you see my posts I rightly praised VII. On the other hand you were very biased against OoT. Pointing out "flaws" that  pretty much exist only in your view of the game, which again is in the minority. I understand you are a FFVII fan, but you don't have to throw shade at Ocarina. I played the game in 1998 not long after I had played VII. I know what I saw. 

FFVII set a new standard in story telling and presentation for its genre and did kickstart a booming era for JRPGs. Ocarina of Time set a standard for gaming as a whole, and that's why it got all of those 10s.