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deskpro2k3 said:
Vodacixi said:

"Is still impactful even today". Okay: how so? I'm genuinely curious.

* snips out the trash *

Are you serious?

I tried to be nice, I really did, but listen let me make you understand something, let me explain to you why your little excuse is trash and a desperate attempt to downplay one of ff7 main attributes.

I think FF7 is a special game for a lot of people and I didn't play RPGs in the early 90s. I didn't really play a lot of video games with story. I had a snes, I played mario, and duck hunt, but FF7 was the first game to introduce story for me, and I wasn't into board-games D&D as a kid. But for a lot of people and including myself ff7 was the gateway to videogames being a narrative to you and getting attached to characters instead of just playing a game for the sake of playing a game.. Like Mario or Zalda. It's like you know a character in a book or using a character in a fighting game, you get attached to that character and what makes that character appealing in some way is similar to the way people get attached to Star Wars, and Star Trek, and both of them spawn multiple series and major motion pictures. The same is true for FF7 because it does this to so many people including myself. This was the first time you lived a game with characters, this was the first time you experienced a journey with characters, and you didn't feel you were just watching a movie, you feel like you were a part of something, like you was there with them.

Your first experience with a game like that is going be impactful and luckily Final Fantasy 7 is still a good game. The characters and storytelling has so many crazy twists and turns and memorable moments throughout the whole game. Having such an impact is why people talk so highly about Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6 because they were the big games on Super Nintendo and this is why people are so fond of FF6 and Chrono Trigger today because they were introduced to it at the time but FF7 was the game that took it from being this niche thing that was on a Super Nintendo to suddenly it being a worldwide phenomenon with PlayStation. That's why people like in that YouTube video acted in such joyful way. 

Now to address the facts, I mentioned that FF7 has multiple spin-offs, films, and anime. I wasn't comparing that to Zelda, I was just stating some irrefutable, undeniable facts. I said FF7 has the best story and music, that much is also indisputable, but you just had to take it to another level with your poor attempt to downplay. I'll be the bigger man here and I say I'm sorry. I didn't mean to state some hurtful facts. So since you have nothing else to say I guess that's that.

Fair. I agree that Story and Music is undisputably in FFs camp. That's fine those categories are actually vital in the success of a traditional JRPG which FFVII is. The films and spin offs are irrelevant, because we are comparing two stand alone games. 

I am with you, unlike you, I had played RPGs before FFVII, and I was still mindblown by the story. The game really set a standard at the time for it. FFVII to me is a 9.5/10 game, Ocarina is a 10/10. I actually reviewed the game in the Switch re release.

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/gamereviewdisp.php?id=222781&reviewid=1369

I clearly love the game, but Ocarina is just better in every other aspect.  It is unfair to also just out right dismiss the story and characters in Ocarina. The game is an action adventure more in line with action RPGs, they are not known for story telling in the way JRPGs were. Ocarina actually was pretty ground breaking at the time because of the use of in game engine cutscenes. The game told a wonderful story that did fell short of FFVII's sci-fi tale, and there is no shame in that.