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yvanjean on 13 January 2020
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DonFerrari said:
yvanjean said:

I don't have Google stadia and Xbox Cloud service ins't available in Canada. Well I do own a Xbox one X and PS4 slim, I just never use it the PS4 :P
I'm a console gamer only, all of my computers at home aren't used for gaming at all. I want the best consoles experience available. I will buy XSX on day one and might pick up a PS5 when the price is right. 

My problem with sony consoles as always been the PS controller ever since the PS1. I understand that in the early days the joy stick were added as an after though. The PS1 dualshock analog controller simply added the joy sticks on the bottom of the controller for convenience but with each iteration of the controller Sony kept the same stupid design. The D pad which is less used then the joy stick now a day get the premium location on Sony controller. 

https://laughingsquid.com/the-evolution-of-the-playstation-controller-1994-2013/

You can have Stadia if you want, much cheaper than buying any console. But you had a need to say why you would play games exclusive on one machine if they were available on streaming but at the same moment you wouldn't stop buying the other machine that already have the games released like that. And if you have a PS4 but don't use it them really you have no interest in the games released there so I don't know how these games being streamed would help you at all.

Yes I knew a jab at the controller would come. Guess you prefer to toss 300 USD in the garbage by buying a console and not playing than buying and adapter or alternative control to play on PS4 since the control dread you so much right?

You want the best console experience available and that was why at launch you got Xbox with Kinect 2 and not PS4 right?

yvanjean said:

When Sony sells a consoles they define break even as cost of consoles + initial revenues from games/controllers/accessories.  HW cost is industry secret so we the consumer never know what is the actual cost. There is also the huge overhead R&D costs and Marketing cost that you can only get limited knowledge if you read Sony financial statements. 

Sony is a public corporation and they have a mandate to maximize revenues and profit for stock holders. There decisions making is based on satisfying current consumer appetite and maximizing profit. 

You are just talking with 0 knowledge.

PS3 selling at 200 loss was a know fact to all. Yes they have to maximize PROFIT, and that have been done in Playstation by always selling the console at loss and making money on the SW.

So your attempt when saying about Sony fucking up because they would take the customers for granted based on Sony (even with PS controller being so much worse right?) posting a logo getting more interest than MS revealing the control now become even more clear. You were just pissed and wanted to attack PS.

First if all your swearing and foul language should probably get flag, I never said Sony is F***ing up that just your stupid interpretation.

When it come to the PS5, the size of SSD drive, amount of rams, speed of rams and many of the components can all be switch at last stage of development in order to either increase performance or cut cost. With your selective memory you probably forgot that Sony was the company that remove the 4k Ultra HD Bluray from the PS4 Pro in order to cut cost.  Sony have made multiple statement to investor that with PS5 they will be conscious of both affordability and managing profitability. 

I bought a PS4 bundle that came with Uncharted 4 for $200 and I bought Horizon Zero dawn (still plan on picking up God of war and Spiderman).  When did I ever said I bought a Xbox one at launch ... I did buy a Xbox one X at launch? I got my Xbox one Titanfall bundle 9 months after release for a great price.
It was clear that at launch both the PS4 & Xbox One both system failed to deliver 1080P/60.

I wasn't referring to myself, I was saying that consumer especially the casual market will have alternative when it comes time to buy a PS5 or XSX, we're are talking mobile games, pc gaming, Xcloud, Google Stadia, XSX, PS5, Cheap PS4 & PS4 Pro, Cheap Xbox one Console, all the used console that people wanting to upgrade are selling at a huge discount .... all of which can affect the sales of new PS5 and XSX consoles. 

You talk about knowledge please show me your insider information proving the $200 loss. The biggest cost of the PS3 was the development of the cell processor and the blue ray drive... i'm sorry but no one except Sony really know the true cost of R&D and per unit price of the cell processor, also the Cell Processor was used for more products then just the PS3. Like I said before Sony might of sold the PS3 at a loss but they recoup some of that loss immediately with the sell of controllers, accessories & games. It was a known fact that Sony was losing money lots of Money at the beginning of PS3 era. The transition from Ps2 to Ps3 was a nightmare for them.