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yvanjean said:
DonFerrari said:

Then since you have Google Stadia and Xbox Cloud service for the multiplats and MS games why then don't you just buy PS5 for HW and nothing else?

I don't have Google stadia and Xbox Cloud service ins't available in Canada. Well I do own a Xbox one X and PS4 slim, I just never use it the PS4 :P
I'm a console gamer only, all of my computers at home aren't used for gaming at all. I want the best consoles experience available. I will buy XSX on day one and might pick up a PS5 when the price is right. 

My problem with sony consoles as always been the PS controller ever since the PS1. I understand that in the early days the joy stick were added as an after though. The PS1 dualshock analog controller simply added the joy sticks on the bottom of the controller for convenience but with each iteration of the controller Sony kept the same stupid design. The D pad which is less used then the joy stick now a day get the premium location on Sony controller. 

https://laughingsquid.com/the-evolution-of-the-playstation-controller-1994-2013/

You can have Stadia if you want, much cheaper than buying any console. But you had a need to say why you would play games exclusive on one machine if they were available on streaming but at the same moment you wouldn't stop buying the other machine that already have the games released like that. And if you have a PS4 but don't use it them really you have no interest in the games released there so I don't know how these games being streamed would help you at all.

Yes I knew a jab at the controller would come. Guess you prefer to toss 300 USD in the garbage by buying a console and not playing than buying and adapter or alternative control to play on PS4 since the control dread you so much right?

You want the best console experience available and that was why at launch you got Xbox with Kinect 2 and not PS4 right?

yvanjean said:
DonFerrari said:

What have they done to PS3 due to "it will sell anyway"?

They lost 200 USD per console sold for like 3 years on PS3, how is that "future proofing for slightly less profit"?

There is about 0% chance of Sony taking market for granted and that meaning they will deliver a cutback console. It is more probable (still almost 0) that Sony will launch a very strong device for a too high of a price. Sony do premium products for more expensive than their competitors instead of cheaper products by cutting corners in basically all the markets they compete.

And for 4 gens they have always released a system that loses money on the first couple years on the HW and offset that with SW sold and royalties, PS4 was the first one to break even very fast and also to receive new forms of revenue.

Sony won't fuck over just because their logo got more excitement than MS reveal.

Sony releasing a system for 399 or 499 means that the HW will cost 50 to 100 more to make than the MSRP at launch, if they decide for the first due to mass market price that isn't taking customer for granted, that is trying their hardest to reach as much customers as possible.

When Sony sells a consoles they define break even as cost of consoles + initial revenues from games/controllers/accessories.  HW cost is industry secret so we the consumer never know what is the actual cost. There is also the huge overhead R&D costs and Marketing cost that you can only get limited knowledge if you read Sony financial statements. 

Sony is a public corporation and they have a mandate to maximize revenues and profit for stock holders. There decisions making is based on satisfying current consumer appetite and maximizing profit. 

You are just talking with 0 knowledge.

PS3 selling at 200 loss was a know fact to all. Yes they have to maximize PROFIT, and that have been done in Playstation by always selling the console at loss and making money on the SW.

So your attempt when saying about Sony fucking up because they would take the customers for granted based on Sony (even with PS controller being so much worse right?) posting a logo getting more interest than MS revealing the control now become even more clear. You were just pissed and wanted to attack PS.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."