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curl-6 said:
JWeinCom said:
I think the Wii U could have succeeded if it actually had a decent marketing push and games that made use of its features. But without that they should have just called it Wii 2, maybe made gave the nunchuck an IR sensor too. Without the cost of the gamepad, they could have either boosted the performance to somewhere between 360 and PS4 or launched it at 200.

Not sure whether a second IR camera would work well as two cursors on screen just sounds confusing. 

I honestly think the Gamepad was just a lost cause and no amount of games making use of it could make it appealing, consumers simply didn't want it. 

That said, I like the sound of your Wii 2 for $200 sans Gamepad, that's pretty much what I would've done too.

I wasn't thinking of two cursors, just generally more accurate motion detection.  Maybe better accelerometers would do the job.

Whether or not the gamepad could have succeeded with the right software is something we'll never really know, but the fact that after Nintendo Land none of its high profile releases aside from Mario Maker really used it in a meaningful way certainly didn't help matters.  I think Nintendo Land showed a lot of great concepts that could have become interesting full games.