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JRPGfan said:
Doctor_MG said:

Well, that might not be available with todays technology, but who knows what might be capable in 3-4 years. The new Tegra Xavier T194 is capable of pushing out 1.4 TFLOPS at FP32 (compared to Switch 384 GFLOPS in FP32 and the X1 chips full clock at 512 GFLOPS). That's almost a 3 times performance increase in four years. Give it another four years and we could potentially have another 3 times performance increase at ~4 TFLOPS. 

Of course TFLOPS don't mean everything, but with the fact that new architectures come easier programming capabilities it is possible that the next Switch could rival the PS4 Pro in terms of raw power. Besides, a 3-4 times increase in power isn't a generational leap. That would only be slightly larger than the jump from Gamecube to Wii, which was around a 2 times increase in terms of power. 

"The new Tegra Xavier T194 is capable of pushing out 1.4 TFLOPS at FP32"

That uses ~30watts of power to do so, which is fine, when docked.
Yes thats more or less what I've been saying.

When docked, a Switch 2 will likely be around where the base PS4 is at now.

How did I miss this post yesterday?

You start by ignoring that xavier is probably already around 40-50% more powerful than the ps4's gpu. And while it isn't something made for a switch form factor, IF a switch like device were to release in 2019 using a downclocked xavier, it would be a little above ps4 when docked and switch in portable mode. And that's what could be done now. Nvidea's next set of mobile gpus should come out in 2021, benefiting from years of technology advancements and a die shrink to 7-8nm (maybe even 6).

shikamaru317 said:
Nu-13 said:

Tegra x1 was not 2 years old when switch came out and was the best they could get on a $299 system. Orin is not a mobile gpu and is too expensive and powerful. If nintendo gets a gpu that's 40-45% as powerful as an orin for Switch 2, it will already match or at least be close to an xbox one x gpu. But it really baffles me that you accept the reality of other consoles having a 5-7x jump but think the switch 2 will only be like 3x more powerful than the switch.

It was nearly 2 years old. The first Tegra X1 device released in May 2015, Switch released in March 2017, so 22 months, or 1 year and 10 months. 

If Switch 2 is a 2022 device as I suspect, Nvidia won't have released a successor to Tegra Xavier yet, which means that Switch 2 will likely use a Tegra Xavier based chipset. So unless Nintendo has them make a custom Xavier chip with more power than the most powerful Xavier chip currently (1.4 tflop) through a die shrink, I doubt that Switch 2 will offer more than a 3x improvement over Switch 1.  

1.5 years then, as the switch was scheduled to release in late 2016 with 2015 tech. This is no different than ps4 and x1 releasing in 2013 with 2012 tech and ps5/xsx coming in 2020 with 2019 tech. Each using what's apropriate for their for factor.

Last edited by Nu-13 - on 01 January 2020