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thismeintiel on 31 December 2019
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jason1637 said:
thismeintiel said:

Not sure how many times it has to be said, but I'll say it, again, MS=/=Xbox. MS is not going to give Xbox the budget to lose them billions by taking a $200+ loss on HW, not when they are focusing on services as their future. You think the shareholders were loud at the beginning of this gen, they would be 10x louder at the beginning of next gen.

PlayStation, on the other hand, is one of Sony's top priorities. They are going to make sure it sells. And if that means taking a deeper loss on HW, then so be it. And I think plan on it, hence why the PS4 isn't already $199. They're building up a profit buffer. 

This has already been proven wrong from Sony themselves. Not sure why people insist on continuing this narrative. Actually, yes I do. FUD.

MS has done this before with the Xbox and the 360. They weren't making profit until late in the 360 era. Even with gamepass I doubt they're making profit either.  I could see them just eating the loss and selling at $500 because anything more is DOA. 

A big difference. They were doing it to take down Sony. This time around, MS has telegraphed very well where they are headed. Streaming/online services.  That's why XBO HW was not heavily subsidized, but they are willing to lose money on things like Gears 5 to push GamePass with $1 deals.

I think $500 still might be a possibility, but expect more of a $550-$600 price if they really are going with 56 CUs. However, I have seen some crazy suggestions that MS could subsidize it to $399 and win the gen.