setsunatenshi said:
HollyGamer said:
True, not all hardcore gamer are PC only, but most of them are on PC. Because best graphic can only be achieved on powerful PC that is irrefutable fact. And not all hardcore gamers build 1500 USD , instead they buy GPU that cost 500 USD on par with 600 USD Xbox X and just upgrade their normal PC instead building a new one. I don't see any reason to not upgrading your PC, but a loyal Xbox fans will probably buy Xbox X instead PC or go with Xbox and PC
30% will not be noticeable especially when most of xbox games are made using directX api that is good at scaling on many platform (consoles, many variant of PC on the market, future hardware compatibility) but bad at optimizing on single devices. It's the opposite with Playstation API with their GNM and GNMX which is bad for porting games, bad at future hardware compatibility but good on optimizing one single device.
Also there are more factors then just Teraflop number. like memory bandwidth, GPU speed etc etc. Even some expert said many game developer choose small CU count but higher clock instead bigger CU count but less cloaked frequency. PS5 are rumored to have 2 Ghz with small CU that will benefit on pixel rates and geometry shaders. On top of that both are using the same memory bandwidth speed (Flute benchmark indicate PS5 will be using 18 Gbs of GDDR6 instead on the numer on the OP) . While Xbox will be using 56 CU with 1700 Mhz speed to achieve 12 teraflop with memory at 18 Gbs as well. This means it will be even far smaller then 30% in reality. This is very different scenario then PS4 and Xbox One comparison, where the hardware is even bottleneck on memory bandwidth.
I think only very small people that can only tell the difference and you is one of them , also lets be honest here without going to Digital foundry nobody able to pint point the difference , especially when Digital foundry pause the games, zoom in and out and bring the pic close together to compare it. Nobody really care that much. Probably only hundred thousand people like you who will care to see Digital Foundry to see the difference and buy Xbox X many will just buy new GPU. And all of the person who go to Digital foundry are niche gamer and super hardcore.
Let's look on this gen on how a powerful Xbox One X is, It still unable to changed their sales number. Content, price, brand is the most important thing, power also important but on certain degree.
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@bolded: that's absolutely not true, especially when you have ray tracing lowering the fps count so significantly. at similar graphic settings can be the equivalent of playing at 30+ fps vs 60 fps locked
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Both console will be aiming the same performance by tweaking the visual effect. we have seen a lot example with PS4 and Xbox One where Xbox has lower resolution or lower graphic effect ten PS4. We might see PS5 1900p while Xbox X run at native 4K.
Me might see frame rates difference , but not as big with PS4/Xbox One different . Also both will be using Variable refresh rate on HDMI 2.1 , so 10 to 20 frame rates difference will be hard to notice using Variable refresh rates.
Both consoles will be underperformed when using Ray tracing , so we will see a hybrid and more efficient technique combination of Screen Space and texture based ray tracing.
