Official Thread: The Impeachment of President Donald Trump

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vivster said:

Machiavellian said:

Well actually its not a fancy word but you can consider being Impeach as like having a grand jury decide that their is a case worthy to go to trial over.  Now its up to the Senate to do their jobs and try the case.  As we know, the GOP controls the Senate so the chance of the GOP ruling against Trump is slim UNLESS, there was a silent vote, then things could get very interesting.  

What I do not understand by your response is that you believe just because the chance is slim to remove Trump from office, this is a circus.  Actually what we get to see is how each side handles this situation.  Currently there have been a few GOP members who have come out publicly saying they will work with the President and his lawyers so he doesn't face prosecution.  Now if that were to happen in a real court of law, that person would instantly be removed from the proceedings.  There are Dems who state they would vote to prosecute before a trial even happen, the same goes for them as well.  The thing is, what we should see is the process work the way it suppose to be.  That the president goes on trial, evidence, sworn testimony, documents you name it is presented to the court and then a decision is made.  If one party or the other decides to not do their job, then they should face the consequences.

Things should become more interesting once things are push to the Senate.  We get to see how all the actors perform and then we can see if how the country response afterwards.

The circus started when Trump was elected in the first place and not immediately rejected as a candidate because he's unfit for office. Then the circus continued by letting him do whatever he wants and irreparably damage the country's reputation without any consequences. Then the impeachment started and the fact that there is even a chance that no trial will happen is just another act in the circus. The whole political and judicial system in the US is a circus and it's been treated like that by the public as well, which is the reason why it will always stay that way. It's a spectacle, entertainment for the masses. It's the equivalent of gladiator fights in the ancient Roman circus, except the Roman circus had more integrity because things had actual consequences. I'm amazed how the suicide rate among intellectuals in that country isn't skyrocketing towards 100% already.

This comment is, let's just say, out there. You said you live in an "actual democracy" yet you understand that also necessitates people being allowed to vote for who they want. Trump did that and appeals to voters in areas that were historically Democrat strong holds. And he did this with a populist platform which can become more and more popular in the western world (Look at Boris for a more recent example). Democracy necessitates people choosing who is unfit or not. So Trump was fit to serve because he met the criteria (US citizen, at least 35 years old ect). His victory is proof he was fit to be president. 

Trump also hasn't been able to do whatever he wants. He's been restrained by congress and the courts. This is factually untrue. 

The rest is just fluff. The impeachment move was a circus in of itself. Democrats have wanted Trump out of office since he got elected. This move was always either to distract from something or a hope to get Democrat voters out in 2020.