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drinkandswim on 18 December 2019
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SpokenTruth said:
drinkandswim said:

1). Joe Biden 1 billion dollars will be withheld from Ukraine unless you fire the prosecutor. He admits it himself. As a Law Student you should know that is Bribery. Offering something of value for a political action. And he admits it on tape. Ukraine is the third most corrupt Country in the world. 2). So corrupt even the IMF cut off funding from it. Billions of dollars of US aid has gone missing in Ukraine. 3). So you can assume that Trump withheld it for a Biden investigation which has not been proven. 4). But assumptions as far as I know dont hold up in a Court of Law. Pretty sure you need to prove crimes beyond a reasonable doubt.

1). This was a WH and State Department policy he was enforcing. He was tasked to do exactly what he said on that panel.

Ok and so was Trump investigating the decision. You realize there is zero wrong with looking into something. If there is nothing there then whats the big deal?

2). Correct.  And who do you think was supposed to investigate the missing IMF money?  Prosecutor Viktor Shokin.  And he did not do the investigation.  In fact, he did not do a lot of investigations. 1 of the investigations he was supposed to do but didn't was the investigation into Burisma. This is why the US, Canada, UK, EU, World Bank and IMF all wanted Shokin fired. It wasn't just Biden.

Sure that is what the Democrat stance is. (4) People in Ukraine have said otherwise.

3). Well it's hard to prove something when investigators are denied access to all the documentation and people involved....illegally denied, I might add.

It is not illegal to claim executive privilege. 

4). So, you've not read my second post of this thread.  "Impeachment is not a criminal procedure and the common legal framework for a criminal case do not apply."

The Constitution requires high crimes and misdemeanors as the low bar for impeachment.

drinkandswim said:
Bottom line though is even if you prove that he withheld aid for an Investigation into Biden (which hasnt been proven). 1). Its his responsibility to look into a potential Felony. 2). And there is a law that corruption reform is required for foreign aid. It is also the President’s responsibility to ensure American tax dollars arent being spent for corrupt purposes.

1). No, it's not his responsibility to look into potential felonies.  That would be the Attorney General.  As a law student, you should know this.  And it's certainly not a task for the president's personal lawyer.

Part of the President’s main responsibility is to make sure laws are faithfully executed. Read Article II of the Constitution. He chooses the AG, and is the AG’s boss.

2). Yes, and both the State Department and Department of Defense vetted the anti-corruption measures of Ukraine and they passed the requirements of that law.

Ultimately the President has authority to oversee this.