| padib said: I'm going to side with aiwass here. As a Canadian, I have been bombarded with Anti-trump news since before he was elected. The message it sent to me was that the media and the opponents would do whatever it takes to get him out, because they were not happy with the votes. This speaks to me, in that, even if there is some unimportant case about Ukraine (what is 400m$ to the US?), it shows how undemocratic the american democratic process is, and it's sad. Also, even if Fatslob was wrong about the master race, his general idea about the strength of nations is correct. So long as the United States are divided and have a weak sense of national unity, and only loathing for a President who in many areas had the country's best interest at least at heart and did what no other president would've done, America will get passed by other nations, including China. The United States once stood for very good values. Today, they distribute garbage to the world through media and through hyper-consumerism. It is a nation that needs to clean itself up, and this impeachment is not the right start. |
How is this undemocratic? I believe the point of democracy is to keep tyrants from staying in power. Putting the nation's figurehead on trial certainly wouldn't happen in North Korea or China. It's true that the trump hate has been so in our faces for so annoyingly long, but if he really has committed crimes (I've not been paying attention so idk) then he's simply gotta go. Unless you're saying it's for sure that Trump won't be removed from office therefore this whole thing is a pointless waste of time and resources, in which case yeah I agree with you.
Eh what's so bad about being passed by other nations? Currently for those not at the top rung of society, it's still better here than most places in the world, and even after being surpassed, it'll still be decent.
| Bandorr said: Unlikely. No matter what happens odds of getting 20+ republicans on board is a no go. He can kill a puppy on live tv - and they would cheer for him. If by some mega-fluke (like say pence makes some weird power player) from what I can tell the Senate gets to decide if he gets to run away. I can't imagine a Senate actually removing someone.. but then allowing him to run again. |
That is some low ass faith in humanity lol, to say republicans would still support him even after committing crimes simply because they share the same meaningless label. Why are they the ones who decide anyway? Should be a courtroom like everyone else gets.
