HollyGamer said:
DonFerrari said:
And why that should be considered when no one really cares?
If you buy a desktop PC you expect to extract the most power of it not the smallest form factor, power consumption and thermal generation.
If you buy a handheld you want portability (good performance at a good battery life) and them sure form factor, power consumption and thermal generation is very very important.
Consoles just sit in the middle and really most people that buy console don't care about these. They would appreciate a good looking console, but heat and power consumption isn't important to them. They want the most balance on performance for the price.
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Well, i am arguing with him about why consoles is still comparable to a PC and made for gaming purpose by eliminating other non gaming part with better cost efficiency on small factor and small tdp.
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Pemalite said:
HollyGamer said:
You just mentioning PC , but you never agree the benefit of smaller form factor of PS4/Xbox One when it came out in 2013, none of PC has the same small factor , small tdp, small thermal impact and on top of that lower price while at the same time performing equal to HD 7850 with 8 GDDR5 when it was launch in 2013.
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Because the smaller form factor/TDP/thermals aren't an advantage for consoles, PC can beat consoles on those fronts if you opt for something that isn't a powerhouse desktop PC. (Again I have proven this with evidence.) - Please refer to this post if you have forgotten: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9083902
I.E. The Mobility Radeon 7970M is lower TDP -and- faster than the Playstation 4... And is found in smaller form factors and uses less power.
Conversely, the same can be said for consoles, they cannot match the performance of a high-end PC... Or the low-power, low-TDP of a PC. (Remember the PC can be portable, your Xbox/Playstation can not.) - That doesn't actually make the consoles intrinsically better or worst, just designed for a certain target audience.
Pretty sure Pricing/Cost wasn't in your original argument anyway, meaning you are shifting the goal posts, thus making your argument a logical fallacy anyway.
Basically in dot point form...
* PC can be cheaper than console. (I.E. NUC/Netbook/Low-end Laptops etc'.)
* PC can be more expensive than console. (I.E. High-End Desktop PC.)
* PC can be less performant than console. (I.E. Netbook.)
* PC can be more performant than console. (I.E. High-End Desktop.)
* PC can be more portable than console. (I.E. Handheld notebooks.)
* PC can be less portable than console. (I.E. High-end Desktop with 4x GPU's, watercooling etc'.)
* PC can be smaller than console. (I.E. NUC.)
* PC can be larger than console. (I.E. Desktop.)
* PC can use less power than console. (I.E. Battery powered NUC.)
* PC can use more power than console. (I.E. High-End desktop.)
And there are all variants in between that use a mix of those points.
So it's rather humourous that you still cling to the idea that consoles are smaller/lower tdp/less heat than the PC, when that simply isn't the case. Again I refer you to: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9083902
Have a nice day.
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I'll just point 2 things.
Yes it is quite obvious that PC is more flexible since you can go the full spectrum of parts to do what is best suited for your need =p . But you can't deny that when you go for the specific metric of easy, power/price point, etc consoles have an edge, mainly because the console manufacturers sell at a loss what they bought in bulk with a big discount you won't see. Also for most people the specs a base PS4/X1 have and still able to play AAA games 7 years after release on a very competent result is harder on PC.
Second one, you know that PS4 is portable as well, I'm certain you have seem some ludicrous mod that people made to play PS4 on the go. Like this https://www.gamestop.com/electronics/tvs-monitors/monitors/products/gaems-sentinel-personal-gaming-unit/178462.html?utm_source=sdi&utm_medium=feeds&utm_campaign=LIA&utm_kxconfid=t9vz73bvj&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInq207si85gIVx0XVCh0sJgMvEAQYBCABEgIwJPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
