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Pemalite said:
HollyGamer said:

You just mentioning PC , but you never agree the benefit of smaller form factor of PS4/Xbox One when it came out in 2013, none of PC has the same small factor , small tdp,  small thermal impact and on top of that lower price  while at the same time performing equal to HD 7850 with 8 GDDR5 when it was launch in 2013. 

Because the smaller form factor/TDP/thermals aren't an advantage for consoles, PC can beat consoles on those fronts if you opt for something that isn't a powerhouse desktop PC. (Again I have proven this with evidence.) - Please refer to this post if you have forgotten: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9083902

I.E. The Mobility Radeon 7970M is lower TDP -and- faster than the Playstation 4... And is found in smaller form factors and uses less power.

Conversely, the same can be said for consoles, they cannot match the performance of a high-end PC... Or the low-power, low-TDP of a PC. (Remember the PC can be portable, your Xbox/Playstation can not.) - That doesn't actually make the consoles intrinsically better or worst, just designed for a certain target audience.

Pretty sure Pricing/Cost wasn't in your original argument anyway, meaning you are shifting the goal posts, thus making your argument a logical fallacy anyway.

Basically in dot point form...

* PC can be cheaper than console. (I.E. NUC/Netbook/Low-end Laptops etc'.)
* PC can be more expensive than console. (I.E. High-End Desktop PC.)
* PC can be less performant than console. (I.E. Netbook.)
* PC can be more performant than console. (I.E. High-End Desktop.)
* PC can be more portable than console. (I.E. Handheld notebooks.)
* PC can be less portable than console. (I.E. High-end Desktop with 4x GPU's, watercooling etc'.)
* PC can be smaller than console. (I.E. NUC.)
* PC can be larger than console. (I.E. Desktop.)
* PC can use less power than console. (I.E. Battery powered NUC.)
* PC can use more power than console. (I.E. High-End desktop.)

And there are all variants in between that use a mix of those points.

So it's rather humourous that you still cling to the idea that consoles are smaller/lower tdp/less heat than the PC, when that simply isn't the case. Again I refer you to: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9083902

Have a nice day.

HD 7970 Mobile tdp you mentioned not even counted with CPU factor that include with it (PS4 is an APU,  so the tdp are a combination of GPU+CPU) , also please give me the source for this claim. And also factoring the price i don't even see an equal to PS4 apu when it came out in 2013 .  

Prizes and cost is part of the equation the same with spec and it's part of the PC spec comparison. You blatantly accusing people moving goal post is just another reason you cannot admit it. I am done with this childish behaviour. Hasta la vista mate :)