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Technarchy said:
ManUtdFan said:
4k/60 fps is an absolute must for next gen. If that means less particles and effects so be it. I remember playing Bad Company 2 on PC back in the day. Medium settings looked more aesthetically pleasing than ultra high. Less shit blowing around in the wind. And so if it doesn't look lifelike I would argue less is sometimes more.

Also don't bother doing ray tracing, developers if you can't get it right. Shiny bricks and gleaming pavements are not realistic.

I think the question we can't answer is what amount of horsepower games 4 years from now will need to fixed 4k at 60fps. 

However, I fully expect ANY console game from this generation to run at full 4K at 60fps without a single hiccup. If RDR2 makes Scarlett vomit a single iota, then it will be a mediocre upgrade.

I agree. The hardware rumored is so high end. They can only fail to hit 4k/60fps if they go over the top with textures, effects. No point, it won't achieve photorealism.