Rumor:PS5 & Anaconda Scarlet GPU on par with RTX 2080, Xbox exclusives focus on Cross gen, Developer complain about Lockhart.UPDATE: Windows Central said Xbox Anaconda target 12 teraflop

[Trumpstyle]

drkohler said:

Trumpstyle said:

Since you the expert you should figure it out :)

Yes I'm well aware of 6 64-bit controllers are expensive, but Anaconda is 12TF so it need high amount of bandwidth.

I have no idea what is inside the XBox DevKit. But DevKits require more memory than the end product simply because there has to be a lot of debugging software running all along. So MS might have chosen the odd way of memory setup in their kits.

Rumours have it that the MS SoC is considerably bigger than Sony's (rumoured roughly 370 vs 310mm^2). Nobody knows if that is due to additional memory controllers or a lot more CUs or a combination thereof, or simply a rumour.

I'll also surmise that the new SoCs use all kinds of on-the-fly data companders (compression and decompression hardware). That way, newer chips save a lot of bandwith compared to last gen chips. So even a "measly" 256bit bus is good enough for full 4k.

I'm pretty sure Sony will use a 16GByte 256bit gddr6 system with a small ssd/(possibly ReRam) proprietary thingie down the line for streaming in (graphics data) and out (video streaming). I'm not so sure Anaconda will only have 16GBytes, but in a few months we will know the answers.

Yeah memory config remains a mystery for Xbox anaconda, 320-bit bus with 560GB/s memory speed made most sense for 10TF and 384-bit bus with 672GB/s for 12TF. Windowscentral claims 16GB Vram and that old leak from Jan says the same thing. And we got E3 video from Microsoft showing a mixture with 1 and 2GB Vram

CGI-Quality said:

Trumpstyle said:

HOPE IS BACK, Ps5 might be 11,2TF as I thought, but I'm going to bed now. Tom Warren also says 12TF and someone called Dealer says 12TF too but I got no clue who Dealer is.

Until I hear it from one of the major players, I always take these things with grains of salt. Just trying to help people avoid 'disappointing' themselves, only to learn later that caution is the best anecdote for stuff like this. :)

Who is bigger than Jason Schreier? He just repeated the claim that both Sony and Microsoft is aiming for above 10,7TF and it's not gaming performance. This after the news that Anaconda is 12TF.

"Told y'all both Sony and MS were aiming to beat Stadia's number." - Jason Schreier

https://www.resetera.com/threads/next-gen-ps5-and-next-xbox-speculation-launch-thread-ot7-nm.148625/page-323#post-27213413

And he strongly indicated that the 10,2TF is wrong so 11,2TF is back.

thismeintiel said:

Trumpstyle said:

Pff looks like it's over, Anaconda > PS5
PS5 is 40CU clocked at 2ghz as oberon leak suggested (10,2TF).
Lockhart 4TF (18CU, 1,8ghz)
Anaconda 12TF (52CU, 1,8ghz)

It's over, this leak that I thought was 100% accurate turned out to be almost correct except for PS5.
https://imgur.com/gallery/i3TnTKk#Xli5Vxu (leaked jan this year)

I might edit my post, but looks like it's over, just wanted to do a quick post.

It's over? This from the guy who kept saying it's over because PS5 and Scarlett would definitely be 8Tflops-9Tflops.

I think you should really just wait til the consoles are announced before you continue to declare different specs as concrete. Until then, speculation is fine.

I'm pretty sure I was first to say over and over and over again that Lockhart is 4TF and Anaconda 12TF, for a short time after Navi was released I thought they both were 7-8TF based on TDP numbers but 2 people ran tests at different clock-speeds and voltages showed Navi can be quite efficient at 1.7-1.8GHZ speed on tsmc 7nm and then a verified insider said they were both over 10TF so I changed my mind.