Pemalite said:
HollyGamer said:
We already know their strategy , they even blatantly announced a few month ago. Sony want their gamer jump to PS5 as fast as possible, and selling hardware . Microsoft want to sell subscription on game pass , thus platform is useless (they are not focus on hardware) and they want to stay still like how smartphones business is. Even Jason said , all Sony first party ip that will be launch on 2020 will be PS5 exclusives. Even now we already now Halo will be coming to Xbox One as well , thus prove they have different strategy.
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You are jumping the gun. Sony and Microsoft have not given out any definitive timelines of when old 8th gen consoles will be phased out and stop being supported.
Really would be awesome if people would stop passing rumor/opinions off as fact.
HollyGamer said:
I thought you understand games is not just about graphic and graphic, but game design come one packed with AI, Physicist , world building, level design, animation , interactivity, etc etc. If we are talking about graphic yes, but there are so many can be achieved more than just graphic on building new games based on new hardware .
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I have already provided an example where game designed scaled with hardware capability. (I.E. Battlefield.)
I see no need to rehash this out.
Besides, games scale on PC across hardware extremely well, you can take a PC CPU from 2007 when the 7th gen consoles were all the rage and run games today.
HollyGamer said:
Sony are not using pure Vulcan , they will have lower and more primitive than that, Xbox platform will directX API no way developer will make games using lower than that for Xbox, because they don't have time, money , and people for 6 different platform.
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I will need a citation for this claim.
Either way, Microsoft doesn't just drop Direct X from the PC onto the XBox either and call it a day.
Direct X 12 on the Xbox One has a ton of alterations from the PC variant of the API, it's still direct X of course, but they implement new features such as the Xbox 360 texture formats, command processor instructions (in order to reduce CPU load) and more.
Sony and Microsoft are actually the same on this front.
Sony is just leveraging technology from Khronos (Which was built on top of AMD's Mantle foundations) and Microsoft from Microsoft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantle_(API)
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed
HollyGamer said:
Again Sony will say Hasta La Vista to PS4/ slim and PS4 pro (remember they only have 2 consoles) as soon PS5 launched. I made mistake, what I mean not all 100 million PS4 gamers buy the same games , only quarter of them will be profitable. That happened on 7th gen where third party moved out from PS3/Xbox 360 1 year after PS4/Xbox One launched, except for sports games and casual games.
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If you can find a citation from Sony which gives us a definitive timeline of when they will shuttle their 8th gen console sales, I will believe you. Pending source legitimacy of course.
Otherwise, I will assume Sony will do what it has always done every console generation... And that is sell their previous console years after their new hardware has released.
Same though.
The part I find annoying is that anytime a new leak "comes out" everyone rushes over to it and starts passing it as fact.
Then the next day... Another leak, the old leak is then ignored and everyone passes the new leak as fact.
At the end of the day, until we get verification directly from Microsoft or Sony, they should all be taken with a grain of salt.
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Just show me the prove that i said they will do "according to me" , i just using the info from the article and using the info i shared, based or according to insider, expert and Microsoft it self, So are you saying you doubt Microsoft and Sony statement that they are both focusing on different strategy ?
Just read the OP carefully , i put the link to the article on every words i used. From how Sony will jump on is already explained by Jason and Sony itself and How Microsoft will do cross gen already explained by Matbooty and Phil Spencer and also their strategy with Gamepass is the proves.
Battlefield 4 frostbite engine are designed and targeted using PC, not PS3 or Xbox 360 as baseline. If Frosbyte are designed using PS3 and Xbox 360 as baseline frostbite wouldn't be that good considered the target is a limited old consoles. That alone proves that scaling up is possible but risking the potential of future hardware benefit and more powerful and is just graphic not even a game design, let alone it's just FPS games that even exist since 2d graphic .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_4_system_software
Sony using their own API, mantle can be used for both PS4 and Xbox One, buy SOny itself has their own proprietary and even lower than mantle (just read the article ) it called GNM and GNMX one of those are lower API.
Again Sony will not shut down PS4 sales (nobody said that), they will continue selling PS4 like PS3 but they already clarified based on the link i gave on the OP that they will focusing on PS5 and ready to move their games baseline to PS5 not cross gen is a FACT. Microsoft are going to release Halo infinite as cross platform and cross gen is just the proves, (why are u still arguing this fact) .
