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Nautilus said:
Eagle367 said:

Why are you mentioning Maduro? Are you sure you know what you're talking about? First get the name of the leader right. Second the American funded OAS said the Bolivian election was rigged before it even ended and no proof has been found from any source, only an illegitimate claim by a biased organization. The Americans who hate the Bolivian leader whose name you don't seem to remember fund the OAS so the bias is easy to know and understand. Other independent organisations didn't find any proof of that claim. Just like the lie about WMDs and the lie about chemical weapons attacks in Syria. And go read independent media not funded by large US corporations who love capitalism because it benefits them so much and hate socialism because it will affect their bottomline.

Go read the intercept for one. Research what code pink does. Why do you trust CNN, BBC, MSNBC or WaPo or new York times? They have blatantly lied about Bernie Sanders so why should you trust them? They are clearly biased because capitalism benefits them a lot and many of their tv personalities are millionaires because of it and they are owned by large media conglomerates that benefit them. Show me that same conflict of interest in the intercept.

That's why I trust different news sources for different stories, RT is not gonna say something negative about Russia but they will have no problem reporting truths that are anti-american. Al Jazeera might not tell the whole truth about Qatar, but they do a fine job on almost anything else, hell might be the best of the bunch. CNN might lie when US imperialist Corporatist interests are involved but they might be the best source on other stories. I consider biases when reading the stories and take what news papers and other news sources feed me with a huge grain of salt and then make my own judgement. Can't say the same for you since you can't even get the leader right. 

Next time ask yourself why CNN would tell the truth about Syria or Bolivia? Why would RT not tell the truth about something that makes the US look bad. What motive would code pink have for standing against US imperialism other than just being against US imperialism. Why would Assange leak bad stuff about Russia if he is working with Russians. Why would WikiLeaks be filled with info on all countries indiscriminately if he works for one of those countries? I know it's easier to buy the US imperialist propaganda but looking at all stories from all angles and making your decision based on that is the best policy. Get as much data as you have time for. That's how I know.

And my team as you say is humanity. I make my politics centered on what helps the list people, not selfish old me, unlike the US government. And it's not a conspiracy theory that the US has invaded countries, democratic countries just for supporting USSR or thinking about socialism or communism. It's in history books. Ask a historian about that and manifest destiny. I condemn any country invading a sovereign nation that has a different political belief system than you solely because of money, power and a superiority complex. The US has caused much harm to the world and this is just the latest example. This is class warfare and the rich did start this class warfare long before either of us were born. Anyone who chooses money and power over people is my enemy. I just realised what the best system for humanity is and I just have the privilege of knowing the hypocrisy of world leaders all over and not buying the propaganda of any one nation like you gobble up western imperialism. 

Oh yeah, its morales.Sorry, confused one dictator with another.

But your wall of text is really funny.It all boilds down to "You believe all these big news outlets?Hah!Fool!You dont know the truth because you dont read/watch/hear the ACTUAL truth from the news outlets that I actually like!" And then you go and name the Intercept, run by the moron Gleen Greenwald(who "clearly"[sarcasm intended] isnt biased for left centric governments, given all the damage he has done in Brazil), which no one takes seriously, as an example of a media(which is western based, ironically lol) thats "serious" about journalism.

And there iss also all that garbage about US imperialism and how they want to just to disrupt America... I mean, every country wants to be number one, and sometimes they dont play nice to reach that, but cmon.Anyone reading what you wrote here knows that just conspiracy theory nonsense.

And with that, Im done.Since you clearly dont bring anything relevant and that has a shred of truth to it, not to mention that you simply ignored the fact in your wall of text about Morales rigging the election(The part that you dismiss the external organization jut because its supported by the US(Im trusting you on this) is simply hilarious.Not to mention that the Bolivian entities also proved the fraud), its pretty clear who won the argument.

Oh, and I dont watch/read US centric news source.Not everyone is american you know.And wanna know what?Everyone says the same thing:Morales was a dictator, and that election was a fraud.

Which Bolivian entities? The military? Or the right wing witch hunters? And don't bring up a hypothetical everyone to pretend like my argument is such a fringe idea because you know who else called it a coup? Bernie Sanders, Jeremy Corbyn and AOC, among other people. And I didn't just say I don't read the big news news organisations because I don't like them. Read what I said moron. I said conflict of interest and bias. I mentioned how and where I would trust CNN, Russia Today, Al Jazeera, BBC and others and where I wouldn't trust them. You have mentioned none of your sources but I've shared mine and the biases they hold, I have said multiple sources and if you actually bothered looking at the record of the intercept, you would see they are much more accurate and they aren't funded by billionaires who have a motive in supporting capitalism to their dying breath. I said I don't trust them in this case because I know the bias they hold. I wouldn't trust them on Syria or the middle east either. Just like I wouldn't trust Indian news on Kashmir or Pakistani news on Balochistan and more. I told you I look at multiple sources their biases and them decide. Another source would be the guardian, the 800 professors who wrote against US support of the brutal coup and new regime, common dreams and others. Tell me this, would you trust RT on news about Russia and Putin? No right. Then why do you trust CNN. They've lied before about Bernie Sanders, about the Iraq war, about CIA crimes against humanity, about the Syria war and others. It's a clear conflict of interest. 

You are just ignoring the actual points I made and not addressing the real issues I'm pointing out, coming up with vague undescript "everyone" arguments and pretending you are so smart eating all that propaganda up. It's not a conspiracy when you;be lived it. I've been on the other side of US imperialism and I can see them for the frauds that the US MSM is about things related to western imperialism because they have said one thing and I have seen and heard other things from my own damn community.



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