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Player2 said:
Nautilus said:

People need to stop this "if he is from the left, he is a good guy" and " if he is from the right, he is a fascist!Nazist!".Thats what led to Bolivia becomming what it is today.

This is funny, because if you switch left and right, it describes you and DonFerrari.

You'll never see Jumpin, OTBWY or me defend Maduro, Dilma Roussef, Cristina Kirchner or Felipe González meanwhile you two are the ones defending a religious fanatic getting into power through a military coup.

You read minds and the future to ensure even other people wouldn't defend them?

Have I defended her? Nope. Haven't said a single good thing about her. And also said that by me you can mock anyone you want for any motive.

What I pointed out was that mocking her for being christian is free pass while doing the same to other religion would be met with criticism by several of the same people doing it against christians.

Eagle367 said:
DonFerrari said:

Have I said you did? Have I said OP is that?

Nope, what I said is that in general in this forum and other areas of western world it is fun to mock christians but not other religious, as is ok to mock male but not woman, or white but not black, etc. Would you deny this situation?

Then you are fine.

Owww are you going to pretend there aren't thousand of people that make fun of christianity as a whole but get offended if you mock another religion?

Just see that we got a post saying that all christians are idiots, and no one had an issue or got a moderation.

And funnier here is seeing people complaining about secularity on christian countries, I don't remember any that isn't secular or that chase after other religious minorities, but islamic countries persecuting is still very common. They are basically doing what could be said christians done 5 centuries ago.

Screw those people then. And don't play that argument with me son. The bad leaders have got nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with power and corruption and history. The UK had a chance to help the Arabs that helped the UK win against Turkey. Those Arabs were truly more in tune with what Islam is and would have lead the Arabian peninsula in a very different direction but the UK abandoned it's ally and the Sauds won. The wahabist sauds who spend a ridiculous amount of money spreading their vile twisted belief among unsuspecting poor people who send their children for education and foods to what they think are islamic Madrasahs but end up being wahabist Propaganda camps and they have their networks in most Muslim nations. And all the squiggly lines the British made in the middle east did not help matters there either. An area that was once the centre of trade and knowledge is down the gutters. Let's not pretend Islam has a major role in any of what's happened in the middle east, it's just power and politics. People who criticise an entire religion without understanding any of it are just idiots. And for you to judge Islam ;ole you claim others unjustly judge Christianity is your problem, not mine. As I said, go ahead and make fun of Muslim,;readers for their stupidity and evils. 

Islam on the creation already had jihad constructed into it. So what would be in tune with Islam be?

And sure there are plenty of good people who are islamic, and also plenty of bad people that are christians. Also yes you can blame UK for not supporting the better or less violent islamic leaders. I pretty much believe that when islam evolves to be a smaller aspect of the lifes of the people in countries majorly islamic like christianity evolved in western countries. If one look at the bible certainly will find plenty of stuff justifying bad behavior and killing people.

Eagle367 said:
Nautilus said:

Oh please, really?Are you really going to play the "She/he is right leaning, so he/she is a fascist" card?Well, if it comes down to this, at least I know that I have won the argument....

The PEOPLE wanted him out.It is stated on both sources that I gave you.It wasnt something that the evil military or the evil first world ploted to make it happen.People, especially ones that live a good life in countries like Europe or in the US, are so ennamored with this idea that socialism and the governments that comes with it are "for the people", that they defend anything they do, no matter how horrible that government turns out to be.Why?Because its easy to defend something that you dont live in, and its harder to accept the fact/truth that maybe your ideals are simply not pratical.

Morales was not a good dictator, at least in the end, and the people wanted him out.There were multiple protests about the fradulent elections(and even before that), acknoledged both by the country and by international entities, and you come here and say that it was the military, and by extention the people, that did a coup?

Honestly, it makes me want to send anyone that approves such governments, especially ones like Bolivia which are one of the poorest countries in the world, to go live there for a year, and think if they feel the same way after that time.Yeah, it sucks that Bolivia had to live through a shit dictator like Morales, and that its interin(interin!!!!) president isnt all that better(at least in theory, saying is one thing, doing is another), but being blind about the true nature of the previous government is just asking to make the same mistake yet again.

The people did not want him out. That is a lie perpetuated by Western media. And she isn't fascist just because she is right wing, she is fascist because she came in power unelected, gave the military free hand to kill protestors and the Bolivian people and replaced a democratically elected leader

Yes let's call everything fascism, that certainly explain everything.



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